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allo thanx for the great info, guys :cool: i was thinking of a cleric/ monk/ sacred fist... be an unarmed, unarmored, buffing, healing, punching machine :cool: messy :)

allo can a pure cleric (no multiclassing), in the absence of a fighter-type, make an effective tank? what about a multiclassed cleric for whom spellcasting is a strength (such as cleric/monk/sacred fist)? it works for durkon (order of the stick), but i'd like to know if anyone has seen it...

IIRC, an old dragon magazine said they are pronounced "yoon." messy :cool:

i think it's a way of limiting the level of power that PCs can reach. if a PC can live forever (or a very long time), it gives that character years and years to keep adventuring and leveling up. eventually, the character could conceivably surpass the levels of the most powerful beings in the...

str- 11 (top end of average) dex- 13 (always had good balance, reflexes, etc.) con- 12 (always been in good health) int- 12 (smarter than the average bear :)) wis- 12 (ditto) cha- 8 (average looking, introverted, somewhat shy) neutral good human commoner level 1 :cool: messy

like- "knight in shining armor" concept aura of courage challenge of assigning ablity scores, since most are useful dislike- disease immunity. make them immune to ALL diseases, magical or not (this goes for monks also). cure disease x/week is too hard to keep track of. just make it 1/day with...

i want to marry you. seriously, best post i've read in a long time, on any topic. also, i'm a big fan of the cloistered cleric. messy :)

i like ao's, but i think they should be simplified. maybe drop ao's provoked by movement, or something... messy

i did it a number of times with a wizard... once or twice by casting the exact spell, numerous times by casting dispel magic (and getting a good roll on the caster level check). counterspelling rocks :cool: messy

except for the "one or two new core classes..." i agree with all of this. messy :cool:

like- spontaneous casting- makes sense and gives druids some flexibility wild shape (but see below) mix of offensive, defensive, and utility spells flavor dislike- wild shape (and polymorph, polymorph any object, etc.) needs to be fixed once and for all so that it's balanced and makes...

i once played a 1/2 elf because i didn't want to play an elf ;) being a 1/2 elf didn't make her weak. being multiclassed DID make her weak ;) messy

ziggurat (but didn't know what it meant until recently ;) ) initiative proficiency messy

i don't mean to flame you, but this is an awful stereotype that certainly doesn't describe "marriage in a nutshell," IMO. messy :mad:

so, if bob the sorcerer has a 16 wisdom and takes arcane disciple (healing), when he reaches level 12, he could cast CLW, CMW, CSW, CCW, Mass CLW, and Heal once each per day? this seems pretty powerful for a class that is not supposed to be able to heal. messy :)

ahhh... now i see. thank you, caliban :cool: still, it doesn't seem right to give sorcerers and wizards access to healing... i thought this was a big no-no in terms of class balance :confused: messy

hmmm... this seems to contradict what Iku Rex said. are the domain spells usable once per day each (as Iku Rex said) or just like other chosen spells (as Corsair's statement seems to imply)? :confused: messy

good point. the required skill ranks are obtainable at level 5 (as knowledge [religion] is a cross-class skill), but i didn't realize that the spells can only be cast once each per day. must have missed that :heh: messy :)

can't find a group! if i had a regular game, nothing would get in its way :cool: any games in tucson need another player? ;) messy :)

allo in Complete Arcane, there is a feat called "arcane disciple." the feat seems (if i am reading it right) to allow an arcane caster to add spells from a single domain to his/her class spell list. if this is correct, a sorcerer could choose the healing domain, and gain access to healing...