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Hyperbole for effect is a lost art. The point is: Cthulhu and things like it are way overused in TTRPGs.

IIRC they only make platinum editions for adventures.

Interesting. I find the investigative stuff and conspiramids and such from NBA to be great, but the actual combat system is a slog and is not Jason Bourne or John Wick for me.

The real question I am asking is why aren't levels 1 and 2 worth playing through for everyone? Why make them training wheel levels? It seems a waste. Players that need training wheels will have the starter sets (of which there are what, 5 now?)

Except the ones we really want: Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect come immediately to mind.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider the benefit of those levels when they go by so quickly?

Is that slower and lasting longer than average? i thought the average was 18 months to level 11 or 12.

Now that's some violence I can get behind.

there are non-elf games that include Cthulhu, while nearly all elf games ALSO include Cthulhu. Ergo, Cthulhu is more over used than elves (dark, hawt or otherwise).

I am not sure of the connected here. What do you mean by "so they could better survive"?

Is there a more overused thing in TTRPGs than Cthulhu?

Did they? Was there a portion of the playtest that actively asked "Should levels 1 and 2 be useless to everyone but the newest players?"

I have done "naked GMing" before and enjoy it, but have not used it for the purpose of trying to build a foundation for a new system. Interesting idea. Again, it is waaaaay too early for that. I am just in the conceptual stage and interested in what folks think about these topics independent of...

Page 43 (as pointed out by @billd91 ) says "It is particularly recommended starting at level 3 for seasoned players." I find this interesting. If they know that level 1 and 2 are training wheels, why are they in the PHB and not just part of the starter set? What is the point of having 2 useless...

You want to use a very narrow definition that actually goes against the whole point of discussion. B&G can (and are) make a Platinum Edition of things that you decided are not "big adventures." That is the case here as well.

For the naysayers:

That is just not true. People may have moved. Someone else may have used a spell. Another spell may have reduced its number of available rounds. Conditions may have expired. It is extremely rare for the state of play to exactly the same at the end of a round as it was at the start, even if...

That is kind of the long way around, isn't it? "We recommend starting at 3rd level for seasoned players" is not really the same thing as "We DO NOT recommend starting at level 1 for seasoned players." But, yes, it is semantics and interpretation.

I voted No simply because I do not think 5.5 is an upgrade. At best, it is annoying in its small changes. At worst, it actively messed some things up. Sure, the MM is marginally better than the 2014 MM, but even then you have a TON of better MM to choose from.

Yeah, I literally said that backwords. I even contradicted myself a couple posts later. Oops.