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I'm looking for a gaming system that supports a level above RPG play: controlling cities/kingdoms/empires. My group has been heavily involved in D&D over the years, but we've seen very few systems that support running a city, being a baron, or a king. I'd like to hear what others have found...

SPOILERS: (As in this whole thread is basically nothing but spoilers, so no player should read past this, and that's enough for the spoiler warnings)... So I'm finally almost wrapping up my current campaign, an Age of Worms 4E conversion (and I can't say how much I look forward to not having to...

Hi, my group and I play D&D 4E, have been playing since 2E. Generally we are happy with the new system, but my group tends to like two game elements: adventuring/hack n slash/role playing type gaming and strategy type gaming with armies, political factions, diplomacy, and economy management...