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Here's the point. Clerics are supposed to be healers and support PC, and a second -class melee character. With several personal buffs, clerics were better than the Fighter. This was just plain wrong. Now, I believe in the cleric casting buff spells, mind you- but on the whole party. Then...

I wouldn't allow extra feats or anything like that. However, an animal companion, or a Familiar would be OK.

OK, then Pax/Trachmyr: Where & when is the original WotC post?

10 feats!?! :lol: I tried to do up a VoP Monk. Now remember- monks usually have CHA as a dump stat. OK- now go ahead and find more than 5 useful feats. Yeah- some of the feats lead to something else- but they are worthless on their own- heck "nimbus of light" is a everburning torch! I...

Yes, even tho it is not listed, a cleric could have a simple wooden Holy symbol. It is within the spirit of the class.

D6 is low average. NOT "good". Really, when the 3.5 ranger came out the reduction from a D10 to a D8 had many experienced ranger players saying they could no longer be a front rank fighter. Like The Souljourner & The Elder-basilisk both wisely said- if you wanted a melle build cleric- the...

Yes, Toughness as a free feat- that I could buy. Or some +2 to skills. Or something...

Bah. Dwarf gets you an 18 in CON, has less penalties, and WAY more racial bonuses. Half-Orc just plain isn't a good way to go. Of course, it's better than half-elf.......

Rogue 15, Shadowdancer 1. Simple. Deadly. Fun. TWF, Imp. Toughness, Luck of heroes(1st level regional feat), Wpn Finesse. All "must do's". (If you're not in FR, you might not be able to get LoH, of course) Then two other feats. dodge & mobility, Imp init & Iron will, Close Quarters fighter...

Yesbut- effectively the RSOP doesn't get any spells from any domain 'cept healing. Taking anything outside the Healing Domain and you waste two major class benefits. And, Healing domain has the worst selection of spells of them all. :( Like I said- I have played this PrC. Dropped it becuase...

Actually, just the opposite. Just looking at a class tells one little- one must actually see it played . The D6 is a major powerloss. If you don't believe me, there are scads of ranger players who insited the new 3.5 ranger was seriously nerfed by going from a D10 to a D8.

Eh. It's a cleric that turns better (often derided as useless in the higher levels) and has a tint bit better healin- I say a tiny bit, as in order to get the best use of it's better healing nearly every Domain spell slot has to be taken up by the Healing Domain spells- and altho the Healing...

Ladieeees & gentlemen! In this corner- weighing in at 185# is Conan the 40th level TWF, with every TWF feat that exists. He swings something like 10 times a round. He has two epic level magic light weapons that he has known how to use since birth. In this corner- weighing in at 98#-is Irving...

The FS gives up a lot to basicly be a Fighting Cleric. At 20th level- the last thing you want to be is a fighting cleric. You job is to make sure the rest of the party is boosted, buffed and protected seven ways from Sunday, whilst you stand around tha corner and cast heal spells on yourself...

A metamagic rod isn't wielded- it only needs to be carried. So- it really just looks like a stick. Those giants would have to have a REAL high spellcraft or detect magic up constantly to do this. The thing is- there is no reason for the NPC's to think different than the PC's. The PC assume...

I'd say your DM sucks also, but I'd first like to give him a chance to explain himself here. So- invite him on over. What to play? Rogue2/hexblade4 then Kensai (CW) all the way. The Kensai will give you a great magic weapon, despite your cheap*ss DM. Or, take rogue1/ranger4(or 5) then...

Right- taking an early level of fighter (say 2nd) can give you that all important extra feat and composite longbow. Other than that- don't.

Yep- now it takes a standard action, and takes place right then & there. In 3.0 one could argue it took a free action, but in any case it didn't start until the bards next round.

3.0 haste was broken. However, what is odd, is that my 3.0 party used to "buff up" every morning- with STR, CON & DEX spells (and a few others) that practically lasted all day (and we were only 12th or less). I remember making the chart! Just about everyone (who didn't have a Con boost item)...

Iwatt- I agree that folks who show their superbuild that assumes a dozen rounds of buffing prior to combat are living in woo-woo land. :D They somehow forget the the enemy can buff also, or could be attacking or running away, and that just one combat per day isn't what you always get. ;)...