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once per class? I like the idea o taking the feat more than once. The revised hybrid rules limit what you can gain with the feat, but I still see you're points about it still being too unbalanced. Maybe just once for each of the two classes that you're a hybrid of? Maybe twice per tier??

You use the item, the magic is gone until tomorrow. You recharge the item, the magic's back. But if you're heroic tier, you still can't use it again until you reach a milestone. All the artificer did was put the magic back into the item. If you say that this means you can use it again, then your...

Ok, first off, let me admit that I have only skimmed some of the comments on this thread. I have 2 children under 4, so it gets hard to focus on any one thing most of the time. So I apologize if I restate something that has already been posted or if it's in any other way apparent that I hadn't...

Ok a few questions here. PHB pg 220 states that large creatures can treat smaller sized 2-handed weapons as one-handed weapons. What about reach? Does a medium sized halberd wielded by a large creature in one hand retain it's reach? Next question... PC Minotaurs (monster manual pg 278) are...

Are the orcs going to be published in a full race spread?? I hadn't even considered that possibility. I was fully expecting half-orcs, but considerring the dual heritage thesubtlepenguin mentioned, maybe both orcs and half-orcs are going to be in the PHB2. That would be cool

Ooooo!!! Where'd you get that?? -------------------------------- I never posted in that older thread but my main fear was that wizards was gonna cater more to the hack'n'slashers and try to appeal to a wider audience, leaving die-hard fans of traditional RPG's (like myself) out in the cold...

Half dragons and fireballs are unrealistic from the perspective of the real world. Square fireballs are unrealistic even within the context of the game-world. That's the issue. EDIT: I guess Kordeth got to this before me.... I agree wholeheartedly. Problem is people aren't looking past what...

Man, sooo much has happened while I was flippin burgers.. I was going to quote a bunch of you but that was gonna be too messy so I'll just sum up my points. Besides you all know what you said. Phloog, most of this is in response to your posts. I agree that alot of the powers are indeed...

Well that's a flaw with the players and the GM. They forgot golden rule #1, The DM is always right. That rule isn't there to allow the DM to be a tyrant, it's there to support the fact that the rules and mechanics are only the backbone and the real meat of the game is imagination. You can still...

That's a good point. Pointing out how a party works best is kinda redudant cuz its already obvious. You don't need the book to tell you that you should play an elf if "you want to excell at the ranger class" overstating these things just urges the min-maxxed role-based party even more. But like...

I started this thread because the discussion is an interesting one. We all have different points of views and I've often changed my mind about things by gaining different perspectives. I've done it right here in these forums. Maybe I set the wrong tone by saying the video game comparison...

Ok, props for the fantastic 4 reference. also, I think you misunderstood me. I'm not SUPPORTING that notion that the roles are needed. What I'm saying is that I hate that the books suggests this. Like you said, it's up to the DM to take the PC's into account when he sets up the adventure. The...

****ing awesome. I thank you and your players for existing.

This I agree with. I HATE that the notion that a party must consist of certain 'roles'. Not only does the mechanic support this, but it's even STATED in the books. That a party should ideally contian this and that and that this class is that role. It's not impossible to break from this. For...

I have to agree with you on this perspective, at least somewhat. I too feel like the race builds and class builds kinda push you towards that min-max way of building a character. But only if your goal is to make the best possible ranger. But there's more to a character than that. Or at least...

This has annoyed me. The notion that 4e has been turned into a "video-game on paper" I agree that the mechanics give that impression. Having mechanics in the first place kinda makes it lean that way. Everything has been broken down to cause and effect, it's well defined and predetermined and...

I guess I just have to adjust my perspective a bit. This particular mechanic DOES only apply to creatures when they're already affected by something. So interrupts and other effects can still be a surprise. And I guess simply having that sense that A will lead to B isn't exactly metagaming and...

True, it's not metagaming cuz it's it IN the rules. What I'm saying is that this rule is to PREVENT metagaming, which I think is unnecessary... This is why I don't wanna houserule it. Or anything. It throws off the balance. But I don't think this reasoning supports the rule. It does the...

Yeah, you're right. Like I said that one was a bad example.... But how about riposte strike. That would be a GREAT 'gotcha' power, except that the enemy would be stupid to trigger it since he knows what would happen. Hellish Rebuke is another one that SHOULD be a surprise IMO. I could name...

Well as far as making saving throws and other rolls. Me and our other DM's have been in the practice of making passive rolls for the playera already anyway. And we also make dummy rolls to throw em off. But my issue is with the situational effects that are unlikely to go off because the enemy...