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  1. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    My bolding. I agree to the principle, but the devil lies in the fact that we in trad play doesn't actually specify what is the failure mode for the task at hand. And most tasks can have several failure modes. This is the ambiguity that typically allow for fail forward in traditional play. In...
  2. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think the important distinction here is the purpose of the mechanics. In this example the purpose of the mechanics appear to be to provide a consistent behavior that a right minded group could interact with to try to learn about, offering a possibility to feel "like a scientist". The exact...
  3. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    GM: So, knock has a verbal component, right? [rolls some dice in secret, checks their notes, and manifests their signature grin]
  4. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think it might be helpful to seperate between the concept of random encounters and random stocking. It appear to me like what you describe amounts to random stocking using random encounter tables. In common parlance "random encounter" refers to exactly the procedure of play you say you are...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    This is (probably) a misatribution. That being said a post I recently read about similarities between fate compells and wandering monsters have made me contemplating if there are broader parallels between that system, an narrative systems for bringing elements into play. So I do not feel...
  6. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yes, it is a great move in a skilled play game. But I'm understanding of the word "competative play" is having important differences to "skilled play". I pointed to one essential my post: The assumption of a fully neutral GM. I also will point out that even if you replace "competative play"...
  7. Enrahim

    Benevolent GM stance

    Ok there we have it. I know the concept of buddy GM. In common language this is a different concept than the benevolent GM. I think keeping these concepts seperate is useful. But with that clarification out of the way I think there ae something useful for the context of this thread here. The...
  8. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I think this is slightly missing the point, getting into strawman territory. I think it is important to seperate the concept of "realstic procedures" vs "realistic outcomes" vs "most probable outcomes". I think there nowdays are very few in the realistic procedures camp. The wound/hp system is...
  9. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I do not think so. I do not think it was common in competative play to see a frog men guarding the entrance to a cave and think "hm, maybe we could get them to worship our petrified prior companion rather than their current idol to get on their good side?" I think any competative game referee...
  10. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    My bolding. Also for reference the heading for the list you quoted: "Every time it’s your turn in the conversation to tell the hunters what happens, or when they look at you expecting you to say something, use one of these moves:" The way this is formulated it sure sound like it is intended as a...
  11. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I absolutely love these kinds of board games. However none of them hold a candle to TTRPGs when it come to provide the kind of challenges i love in TTRPGs. And computer RPGs i have found to feel mostly like a pale mockery of the real deal that I can just accept when I do not have possibility to...
  12. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I really would like to second that, but with a big caveat. I think you here might be assuming the PCs success as the "goal of the game"? My impression with narrative games is that this is rarely the "optimal" mindset. For instance when I played fiasco I was actively looking for how much trouble...
  13. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    (I think you have missed the context, they are i a long subtread that as far as I could gather from quickly skimming it now tries to figure out when and how things I fiction can be established as a result in non traditional games. As such DW is relevant for the immediate context. I still am not...
  14. Enrahim

    Benevolent GM stance

    Is this an ideal you adhere to, or a caricature of a style of play you don't like?
  15. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Exactly, so how would it help with any way with a D1000? ;) That was exactly my point - my entire claim was that bringing in the D1000 was not having the effect you seemed to be after!
  16. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Beyond the very flowery language, what is the key difference between your example and the exchange you replied to? I do not see any mention of the cook before the key roll. Indeed I do not see any thing before that roll that appear to inform the decission about the consequence of that roll...
  17. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I love math! In my 30 years in the hobby I cannot remember once there being done any climb check where the stakes has been more than 2d6 falling damage. Let us say my memory is a bit foggy and this actually has happened 2 times. That mean we are looking at about once every 6000 year that this...
  18. Enrahim

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I am sorry, your math intuition is a bit off. I think the issue become clearer if you turn it arround: Do you care about your chances of succeeding halving? How about your chances of succeeding being reduced by less than 1%? A doubling of 1 in 1000 to 2 in 1000 feels much less significant to...
  19. Enrahim

    Benevolent GM stance

    @Ruin Explorer and @Theory of Games I extended my original post with a "wall of text version" trying to address the misunderstandings I have seen so far in this thread caused by it. As you are the ones that I think have been most helpful in making me recognize the issues with my original...
  20. Enrahim

    Benevolent GM stance

    Could you please quote the part of the OP that is misinterpreted this way? I have observed that is a common misinterpretation, and have several times in this thread tried to fight against it. It keep coming up tough. I tried to make a strong distinction between the classic concept of benevolent...
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