D&D 5E 2022 WoTC Books?


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teitan

Legend
There is a thread showing the branding of the upcoming novel.
Yeah but that means nothing. It just says “Classic” and you’re speculating that it has a greater meaning beyond that and presenting that speculation as a truth. It could be Classic Dragonlance because of the authors and the era similar to the Fifth Age branding so a call back to the War of the Lance or immediately after. But we will see. Perhaps you are right. It also prominently says D&D on the cover unlike the Driz’zt novels that I recall anyway.
 

Yeah but that means nothing. It just says “Classic” and you’re speculating that it has a greater meaning beyond that and presenting that speculation as a truth. It could be Classic Dragonlance because of the authors and the era similar to the Fifth Age branding so a call back to the War of the Lance or immediately after. But we will see. Perhaps you are right. It also prominently says D&D on the cover unlike the Driz’zt novels that I recall anyway.
It's incorporated into the logo, and is therefore part of the branding. That's fact, not speculation.
 

teitan

Legend
It's incorporated into the logo, and is therefore part of the branding. That's fact, not speculation.
Ok and? How did I dispute that? We still have no idea what that means. It means Dragonlance Classic. Cool. Tells us nothing about WOTC plans. Also says A Dungeons & Dragons novel so… they tied their big brand to it more explicitly than the Driz’zt novel.
 


Ok and? How did I dispute that? We still have no idea what that means. It means Dragonlance Classic. Cool. Tells us nothing about WOTC plans. Also says A Dungeons & Dragons novel so… they tied their big brand to it more explicitly than the Driz’zt novel.
I mean, we don't know for, sure but it's pretty suggestive.

Dragonlance Classic implies the existence of non-classic Dragonlance.

The only real question is, is that Classic branding to reassure novel fans that this isn't some wack-ass modern DL - which would make the most sense, especially given it's bringing back "Classic" characters like Tasslehoff Burrfoot < shoots self > or is it there to differentiate it from a WotC-released DL.

Oddly I actually think that branding very slightly ups the chances of there being a DL setting-book or adventure or both, but it also means that if there is one, it's going to be very, very different to the novel.

If you're betting, the odds are a lot better that it's to reassure ageing novel fans (because who else is going to care if it's "Classic" or not?), but there is a possibility that this is to differentiate it from a setting/adventure.
 

Friend Folio should be along soon. A collection of information about previously misunderstood peoples who are actually quite nice once you sit down and have a cup of tea with them
I know you're being sarcastic but I legitimately love that idea, like you could have a bunch of races/monster that work as both friend and foe, that have cultures you can interact with in a way that's not just "OMG THEY ARE EATING MY BRAIN!", but that equally might be challenging/difficult in various ways.

That's not something D&D has really ever tried, or many RPGs, but I think weirdly it could actually work quite well as a sort of "two-angle" book.
 

Marandahir

Crown-Forester (he/him)
Lucky lucky you. It would be nice if everyone got a little of what they like though right?

Incidentally what is Pelorramm? It has defeated Google?
A supposed to be funny way of saying Gorramm. by switching the God for Pelor…

My comment was rather, I think they're FINALLY moving in the right direction regarding adventures and I don't want them to pull their feet off the gas. I'm sorry you don't have enough published adventures that meet your interests, though.
 

For adventure books, I really hope they rein it in a bit, take stock and go back to some tighter narratives. I want to get to know an area and the people inside it with more detail, rather than going on jaunts through hell, the fae realms, the frozen wastes, or 20 different places.

Episodic content is fine, but I don’t want to feel like I’m playing the D&D equivalent of Quantum Leap!
Surely you mean Sliders or Stargate or something rather than Quantum Leap?

Honestly though I am shocked we've never seen a Quantum Leap RPG. It seems like for a small group (say 2-4 players) all leaping into various people in a situation that could work great.

But anyway, I suspect these sort of "grand tour" adventures play better with a lot of groups than really focused/tight ones with a small number of locations, hence them moving that way. Of course it might be simply that they're easier to have a bunch of people write. Honestly I have never been impressed with WotC's adventure output in any edition and 5E hasn't changed that. Even their best stuff, is, to my mind, merely "okay".
 

HammerMan

Legend
Gully Dwarfs and Kender or...? Honestly I'm interested to hear.
A race of thieves that can't help themselves but people love them anyway because they are magic/supernatural unable to learn a basic concept... Yup, no propaganda there...
A race that is put down less intelligent and made to be the but of jokes about races being dumb...I'm sure that goes over well in 2022.
 

GreyLord

Legend
I would count Planesjammer as Spelljammer for the purposes of this conversation.

Your the one who suggested Star Frontiers.
It could many things, among which could be a Manual of the Planes type book where various iterations of the idea are explored.

Which means it would not be Planescape or Spelljammer, but a book on Plane Travelling and travelling between worlds in various manners. It may be like Fizban's where you have an Known NPC's name on the book, but the book itself is something that can be applied to ALL campaigns, not just a specific one like Spelljammer or Planescape.

I'd think that if there is a campaign book released it may also be similar to Theros or Stryxhaven in that it will be a new Campaign setting for D&D, but not necessarily new as it may have been utilized previously in another game or system.
 

Azzy

KMF DM
The novel that WotC didn't want published, is not promoting, that the authors went to court to avoid making the changes WotC wanted, and has it's own branding to distinguish it from any WotC products?

Yeah - no.
Sounds like there's a lot of assumptions in your post with weak foundations. If you read W&H legal complaint, everything was running smothly until pedo-boy got involved as the WotC liason.
 

Mezuka

Adventurer
Honestly though I am shocked we've never seen a Quantum Leap RPG. It seems like for a small group (say 2-4 players) all leaping into various people in a situation that could work great.
GURPS Timed Travel does Quantum Leap. There was a 60s show before that called The Time Tunnel which I watched avidly as a kid.

Time Tunnel: The Time Tunnel - Wikipedia

GURPS: GURPS Time Travel
 
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Marandahir

Crown-Forester (he/him)
Sounds like there's a lot of assumptions in your post with weak foundations. If you read W&H legal complaint, everything was running smothly until pedo-boy got involved as the WotC liason.
I don't know much about Nic Kelman other than he works for WotC's magic team, was the liaison on this deal, and wrote a book a long time ago that's either in genre with Nabokov's Lolita, as trying to get inside the mind of the monsters (per some reviews I pulled up just now), or else is really, really, REALLY bad erotica.

But that's what that is… fiction. Did Nic Kelman actually do any bad things?

There's a wide gulf between writing fiction and doing things. I do think that if that book was intentionally written as an expression of his world view and fantasies that that could mean that he brought that into his editorial work with the Dragonlance writers in such a way that hurt their work or made them uncomfortable, but this is all speculation. I'm not defending him or WotC, nor do I desire to equivocate or create a false sense of "both sides" - just that these things are complicated and speculation based on our limited information usually leads to demonisation of the other REALLY REALLY fast.

And then that leads to thread-crapping. So let's not use buzz words like the above UNLESS the guy is actually a criminal, right? Maybe I missed it in my puruse of googling him just now. It's quite possible. But if not, then maybe lets pull back on the speculation re: why the deal got on shaky ground?

Especially when this thread is literally about something almost completely unrelated: what D&D sourcebooks we're getting from WotC in 2022. Dragonlance novels are not sourcebooks. They may imply that we get a Dragonlance source book or not as tie-in. But we're getting the novels after all in the end. So really, that tangent is just the fast-lane towards shutting down the thread for no good reason.
 

Mezuka

Adventurer
And then that leads to thread-crapping. So let's not use buzz words like the above UNLESS the guy is actually a criminal, right? Maybe I missed it in my puruse of googling him just now. It's quite possible. But if not, then maybe lets pull back on the speculation re: why the deal got on shaky ground?

Especially when this thread is literally about something almost completely unrelated: what D&D sourcebooks we're getting from WotC in 2022. Dragonlance novels are not sourcebooks. They may imply that we get a Dragonlance source book or not as tie-in. But we're getting the novels after all in the end. So really, that tangent is just the fast-lane towards shutting down the thread for no good reason.
Thank you!
 


Dragonlance has been one of the most popular D&D lines, and it deserves a new opportunity, but for a successful revival it needs enough space for the fandom creative. If the setting becomes boring without the most famous characters or heroes then something in the design is wrong. But when the fandom starts to publish faction and fanart then the idea is working.

The best way to keep the balance between tradition and changes are to allow total options to customice the PCs in a future Dragonlance videogame, but the original and classic Dragonlance campaign may be too "railroad".

I haved said Hasbro would wish an adaption to the screen of the novels, and I suggest a CGI animation, but we can't know if it is produced by Paramount or other. We could bet for the return of the saga, but maybe not in this "phase" yet. It is too important to risk to fail with a hitbox bomb.

A spin-off cartoon about kenders? Maybe.

If it is something with "crunch", as subclasses and PC races the answer will be Spelljammer, or a fusion of Spelljammer+Planescape. The other option is an updated version of classic modules.
 

darjr

I crit!
The novel that WotC didn't want published, is not promoting, that the authors went to court to avoid making the changes WotC wanted, and has it's own branding to distinguish it from any WotC products?

Yeah - no.
The authors were making changes to the book that WotC wanted. As the lawsuite said, several pages of content. It wasn't until one guy, who later "resigned" from wotc made more demands and instead of ending the contract came up with a weird "we'll not approve anymore drafts" goofyness. I think we'll see about the promotion.
 

The authors were making changes to the book that WotC wanted. As the lawsuite said, several pages of content. It wasn't until one guy, who later "resigned" from wotc made more demands and instead of ending the contract came up with a weird "we'll not approve anymore drafts" goofyness. I think we'll see about the promotion.
this does not infer that we will be getting a setting book for it only that we are now getting a fiction book.
 

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