D&D 5E 2022 WoTC Books?

[Mecheon]

And yes, I know Star Frontiers isn't D&D but some of the races were converted to D&D and they have a "new" setting planned for next year that could very well be a Science Fantasy setting using Star Frontiers as the foundation for the setting.

Spelljammer stole the Star Frontiers races decades ago.

Anywho, Spelljammer's guaranteed, outside that nothing's 100% but I suspect some planer stuff. I'm also not sure if there'll be a MTG based one, as the MTG sets we know of don't seem as D&D-able as previous. Dragonlance is a semi-valid guess due to the novel, Planescape's another very likely guess (And honestly a bit more likely than DL showing up, novel aside)

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Nah, one is going to be Dragonlance. Gotta synergize with the novel's release.

The novel that WotC didn't want published, is not promoting, that the authors went to court to avoid making the changes WotC wanted, and has it's own branding to distinguish it from any WotC products?

Yeah - no.

 

[teitan]

The novel that WotC didn't want published, is not promoting, that the authors went to court to avoid making the changes WotC wanted, and has it's own branding to distinguish it from any WotC products?

Yeah - no.

Yep at most it will get some podcast chatter, maybe an article on Dragon+ and that's... about it. If anything DL comes it will be a revisit of the adventures in some way similar to Curse of Strahd or Saltmarsh. We will see Greyhawk before DL and that's because of the success of Saltmarsh.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Can you give me a source for that? During the extensive discussion around the legalities of WotC blocking the novel, it was suggested that WotC did not, in fact, "have a profit percentage". I can't remember the source now but it was a convincing one.

Gully Dwarfs and Kender or...? Honestly I'm interested to hear.

No. Uh-uh. Nope. Dragonlance doesn't have particularly great stuff about war in the novels, just dragon vs. dragon combat. The actual battles are pretty vague, there's not a lot of sense of tactics or even combatants in some cases, there's no real sense of strategy and so on. It is not perfect for this. Literally any setting would be about equally suitable (DL would be more suitable for dragon-combat rules, I guess, if you wanted those).

Yeah, and that doesn't stop the setting having to repeat all that and then cover whatever the novel doesn't cover, plus do things like shuffle Gully Dwarves under the rug.

I don't think so. DL is sort of in the middle on my list of settings, rather than up the hated end (few official D&D settings are, and at least one of those is 5E). I've gone over this a bunch in various threads of a couple of years, but I don't see what it has to offer and no-one seems to be able to explain.

Ever since the Nexus came out with their book, WotC has nothing to offer me as far as Dragonlance is concerned. Of course, I dont feel much better about WotC updating any of their other settings either.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yep at most it will get some podcast chatter, maybe an article on Dragon+ and that's... about it. If anything DL comes it will be a revisit of the adventures in some way similar to Curse of Strahd or Saltmarsh. We will see Greyhawk before DL and that's because of the success of Saltmarsh.

I think WotC would rather see it sink without trace.

 

[teitan]

I think WotC would rather see it sink without trace.

You may be right or maybe they reached an agreement that was beneficial to both parties and that's why there was such a long delay, to make edits. They sure did try to sink it though. That was a definite, ummm, eff you.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You may be right or maybe they reached an agreement that was beneficial to both parties and that's why there was such a long delay, to make edits. They sure did try to sink it though. That was a definite, ummm, eff you.

There remains no benefit for WotC in seeing a competing version of a product succeed.

 

[teitan]

There remains no benefit for WotC in seeing a competing version of a product succeed.

It's not competing though, it is a licensed novel product. LIke a Driz'zt novel. I am not following your reasoning on this one.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It's not competing though, it is a licensed novel product. LIke a Driz'zt novel. I am not following your reasoning on this one.

It's begrudgingly licenced. Salvatore actively worked with WotC to develop and promote a new take on Drow. In return they promoted his book. I expect when Weiss and Hickman originally approached WotC with a request to use the licence they hoped for something similar, but W&H proved less than co-operative with the direction WotC wanted to take with the IP. When WotC found they couldn't legally take back permission or block publication they reached a compromise involving branding that distinguished W&H Dragonlance (labelled "classic") from WotC Dragonlance - two competing versions of the same IP. That doesn't mean WotC has to do anything to promote the competition.

 

[teitan]

It's begrudgingly licenced. Salvatore actively worked with WotC to develop and promote a new take on Drow. In return they promoted his book. I expect when Weiss and Hickman originally approached WotC with a request to use the licence they hoped for something similar, but W&H proved less than co-operative with the direction WotC wanted to take with the IP. When WotC found they couldn't legally take back permission or block publication they reached a compromise involving branding that distinguished W&H Dragonlance (labelled "classic") from WotC Dragonlance - two competing versions of the same IP. That doesn't mean WotC has to do anything to promote the competition.

Is this speculation, the two different brandings, or based on something you've seen?