3.5, core classes forbidden

[Nifft]

If I were to run such a campaign, here's what I'd do:

Basics: Scout, Knight, Favored Soul, Duskblade, Spirit Shaman, Beguiler, Dragon Shaman, Warmage, Warblade

Psionics: Psion, Psychic Warrior, Wilder, Erudite, Lurk, Ardent

Wierdos: Binder, Shadowcaster (with Ari's fixes), Truenamer, Dread Necromancer, Warlock, Spellthief (enhanced in some way, it's a cool class but kinda weak)


Psionics and Magic would both be accepted as normal, and people would be more used to limited spell list spellcasters -- a high-level Favored Soul may not have restoration, so the PCs may have to quest for one specific FS who can actually cast that one spell they need.

Likewise for "advanced learning" or whatever for Duskblades, Beguilers and Warmagi -- some will know particularly cool "extra" spells.

I'd allow the Extra Spell feat to grant any spell from any list, since all lists are so limited.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Aus_Snow]

Shadowcaster (with Ari's fixes)

Hmm. . . what dat?

 

[Glyfair]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any of the non-PHB base classes get Turn Undead...

Hmmm...is there a way to get turn undead through prestige classes, without starting with it through cleric or paladin?

 

[Particle_Man]

Other thoughts:

If you don't have core classes, you may need to modify the favored classes of various core and/or non-core races.

Or you could *only* allow races that have non-core classes as favored classes, which could really shake things up!

(As an aside, I once threatened to have a campaign where the pcs could only choose from the size small races).

 

[EyeontheMountain]

You have no monks.

A huge plus.

 

[Henrix]

I don't think you have any classes with 8+ skill points/lvl, only a couple of 6+ skill points, which might be irksome.

 

[Thanee]

Scouts are 8+Int.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Nifft]

Shadowcaster thread with Ari's fixes in: http://enworld.org/showthread.php?t=167796

Now, for races, I'd do these:

Human
Changeling (EbCS)
Karsite (ToM)
Dromite (XPH, SRD)
Half-Giant (XPH, SRD)
Thri-Kreen (XPH)
Kobold (perhaps a variant, like the ones in RotD, or my variant, which I'll pimp if requested)

... and perhaps also:
Warforged + Artificers (they go well together)

-- N

 

[Elemental]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any of the non-PHB base classes get Turn Undead...

A Dread Necromancer (Heroes of Horror) can rebuke them, however. So can a Binder who links to Tenebrous, at the higher levels.

 

[drothgery]

Scouts are 8+Int.

And Beguiler, Lurk, Ninja, Spellthief, Swordsage, Cloistered Cleric, and probably one of the Incarnum classes are all 6+Int.