[3/5] dodge

[brehobit]

I've seen conflicting things on this board about the 3.5 dodge. Do we know for sure if it is +1 or +2?

Also have we heard if the wacky rule allowing cleave and to "stack" still exists in 3.5? That ruling drives me crazy....

 

[geezerjoe]

simply going by memory and hersay ...

dodge will give a +2 bonus vs one opponent or +1 bonus vs all

but then again I may not be trust worthy

l8r

Joe2Old

 

[ForceUser]

Dodge has not changed.

 

[Dr. Zoom]

ForceUser is correct. Andy Collins said Dodge was not changed.

And I am not sure what you mean by the wacky ruling regarding cleave and stacking.

 

[krunchyfrogg]

I'm hoping Andy Collins has made a mistake.

The presumed improved version of Dodge is the version presented in Mutants & Masterminds. Maybe Mr. Collins meant that the feat hasn't changed since then.

 

[Felon]

I'm hoping Andy Collins has made a mistake. The presumed improved version of Dodge is the version presented in Mutants & Masterminds. Maybe Mr. Collins meant that the feat hasn't changed since then.

Guess I don't follow you here. What does a variant feat in Mutants & Masterminds have to do with official 3.5e feats? IIRC, M&M doesn't even carry the d20 logo, so they felt free to do whatever they liked with the feats.

 

[ForceUser]

I'm hoping Andy Collins has made a mistake.

The presumed improved version of Dodge is the version presented in Mutants & Masterminds. Maybe Mr. Collins meant that the feat hasn't changed since then.

The rules aren't a straightjacket. If you like the M&M version, use that. I like the D&D version; a friend of mine is very good with statistics and he says that over time feats like Dodge and Weapon Focus significantly alter damage taken/damage dealt ratios.

 

[Iron_Chef]

We use Sidestep from AEG's Spycraft in place of Dodge because 3.0 Dodge is lame and underpowered, IMO. Sidestep is +2 AC vs. 1 foe or +1 AC vs. all foes. Much handier.

 

[Destil]

I just wish they had added agile ripost from d20 modren (you get an AoO if the person who you're dodging against misses you).

 

[JPL]

I just wish they had added agile ripost from d20 modren (you get an AoO if the person who you're dodging against misses you).

In a game like D&D, where melee is so important, that's a pretty strong feat.

Dragon had a modifed version, which only worked with "finesse" weapons [and required finesse as a prereq]. That's a better fit, I think.