3 questions

[fl8m]

three questions came up at our game last night, and while we made quick rulings and moved on they still confound me.

what happens when a brilliant energy weapon scores a critical hit on a person wearing heavy fortification armor?

What spell protects agianst harm? Negative energy protection only seems to protect against level drain or ability score loss.. what spell would do it?

and is antilife shell really this good? there's no save it lasts 10 minutes per level and nobody can get into melee combat. it seems like the perfect caster defense add a wind wall for ranged weapons and nothing can touch you...

 

[AGGEMAM]

what happens when a brilliant energy weapon scores a critical hit on a person wearing heavy fortification armor?

The armors ability is granted to the wearer of the armor, and therefore even a brilliant energy weapon could not score a crit on a person wearing a heavy fort armor.

What spell protects agianst harm?

None. That is why it is so broken it hurts.

EDIT: Forgot a 'not', crucial!!!

 

[RuminDange]

By the definition in the DMG page 181:
"Fortification: This suit of armor or shield produces a magical force that protects vital areas of the wearer more effectively."

By that I would say the brilliant energy weapon critical would be stopped by the heavy fortified armor. Although, since the armor, shield, natural armor etc is ignored by the brilliant energy weapon the wearer of fortified armor is still going to be hit a lot more since his AC is going to very low.

 

[Trickstergod]

what happens when a brilliant energy weapon scores a critical hit on a person wearing heavy fortification armor?

The rules may support everyone elses answer that Fortification protects against Brilliant Energy, but common sense says that if the armor is being ignored completely, its magical enhancement bonuses and all, then the fact that it's Fortified isn't going to help much against the Brilliant Energy weapon, either. For all intents and purposes, the Brilliant Energy weapon doesn't acknowledge the Fortified armor in anyway whatsoever. It may as well not even be there.

 

[Hypersmurf]

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For all intents and purposes, the Brilliant Energy weapon doesn't acknowledge the Fortified armor in anyway whatsoever. It may as well not even be there.

If someone attacked you with a Flaming, Brilliant Energy Weapon, and you were wearing Armor of Fire Resistance, would you expect the Fire Resistance to protect you from the fire damage?

-Hyp.

 

[Trickstergod]

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If someone attacked you with a Flaming, Brilliant Energy Weapon, and you were wearing Armor of Fire Resistance, would you expect the Fire Resistance to protect you from the fire damage?

-Hyp.

You know, I'm almost tempted to rescind my previous statement on Fortification due to this post. I'm not completely sure. To a degree, it all depends on how you look at the resistance it grants you. On the one hand, it could be seen as the armor absorbing the fire as it strikes you - any damage taken after applying resistance is what couldn't be absorbed, or found an unprotected portion of the body. On the other hand, it could just be that it infuses the wearer with a resistance to fire. In the first case, the flaming weapon would go straight through the armor, and the fire would directly burn the skin and vital organs, meaning it's not prevented. In the second case, the magical aura still shields the wearer from the flames (and, conversely, Fortification would do the same).

Though I'm not so confident in my answer as I was before, I'm still tempted to say Fortification will not protect against a Critical from a Brilliant Energy weapon, and conversely, Fire Resistant amor won't protect against a Flaming, Brilliant Energy weapons fire damage, as I don't see the armor altering the body of the wearer, so much as that all the protection the armor gives is based off the fact that the armor will be hit first. If the armor is just ignored, so will all the protections it grants.

 

[kreynolds]

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Though I'm not so confident in my answer as I was before, I'm still tempted to say Fortification will not protect against a Critical from a Brilliant Energy weapon, and conversely, Fire Resistant amor won't protect against a Flaming, Brilliant Energy weapons fire damage, as I don't see the armor altering the body of the wearer, so much as that all the protection the armor gives is based off the fact that the armor will be hit first. If the armor is just ignored, so will all the protections it grants.

Then by your standpoint, bracers of armor won't protect against an incorporeal touch attack, as incorporeal touch attacks ignore physical material, and the bracers are physical, thus the force effect won't protect against the attack because the bracer doesn't alter the body of the wearer, regardless of what the DMG and Mage Armor spell state.

Do I have that right? I might have missed something.

 

[Cygnus]

By the definition in the DMG page 181:
"Fortification: This suit of armor or shield produces a magical force that protects vital areas of the wearer more effectively."

I would have to say that given this input, it would depend on how brilliant energy reacts with someting like a wall of force.

 

[AGGEMAM]

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If someone attacked you with a Flaming, Brilliant Energy Weapon, and you were wearing Armor of Fire Resistance, would you expect the Fire Resistance to protect you from the fire damage?

From the SRD

Fire Resistance

The armor or shield absorbs the first 10 points of heat damage per round that the wearer would normally take.
Caster Level: 5th; Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, resist elements; Market Price: +3 bonus.

 

[kreynolds]

There's also this tidbit to point out...

"Armor and enhancement AC bonuses do not count against it..."

Fortification is not an enhancement bonus, nor does it provide one. It is merely an enhancement.