4E & Gygax

[JohnRTroy]

Uh, guys, Jon Creffield and I got the play test rules along with Gary Gygax, at his request, so he most definitely did read the rules and comment on them. Monte Cook has read his critiques as well.

It's true that Gary's opinion of the game went a bit more negative as time went on...but then again, you could say that about any gamer--some people loved 4e when it came out and then disliked it, and vice-versa.

 

[Joshua Randall]

Read anything that Gary Gygax ever wrote. The 1e DMG will do.

Read anything 4e. Its DMG will also do.

There is no possible way the same person wrote both.

Q.E.D.

 

[avin]

Everybody knows that, in secret, Gygax wrote every single D&D edition ever made (including 4E and Pathfinder). He uses different writing styles and rules versions just to make fun of you fools!!!

At this very moment he's writing 5E on the plane where he went. This time he decided FIGHTERs will be replaced by Psionics.

 

[Stormonu]

Uh, guys, Jon Creffield and I got the play test rules along with Gary Gygax, at his request, so he most definitely did read the rules and comment on them. Monte Cook has read his critiques as well.

It's true that Gary's opinion of the game went a bit more negative as time went on...but then again, you could say that about any gamer--some people loved 4e when it came out and then disliked it, and vice-versa.

I'm assuming those play test rules were 3E, not 4E, correct?

Yeah, the writing style of 4E does not match anything I've read from Gary. He had a very conversational tone; 4E is very terse.

 

[Oldtimer]

It's so very simple to prove that Gary didn't write 4E.

There are only three weapons listed as polearms in 4E Player's Handbook.
Q.E.D.

 

[MerricB]

Read anything that Gary Gygax ever wrote. The 1e DMG will do.

Read anything 4e. Its DMG will also do.

There is no possible way the same person wrote both.

Q.E.D.

In the hands of two completely different editors... perhaps it is!

It's rather interesting to look at the progression of rules systems that Gary designed; go from Chainmail, to OD&D, to AD&D, to Dangerous Journeys, to Lejendary Adventures...

Hmm... is there one between DJ and LA?

Cheers!

 

[Nikosandros]

Hmm... is there one between DJ and LA?

Not that I'm aware of.

 

[Fifth Element]

If this is an accurate quote, it makes me doubt he actually read the D&D3 game. It also makes me doubt he remembers what he actually created in AD&D1.

Are you sure he wasn't talking about 4E? It sure sounds familiar...

 

[coyote6]

It's rather interesting to look at the progression of rules systems that Gary designed; go from Chainmail, to OD&D, to AD&D, to Dangerous Journeys, to Lejendary Adventures...

Hmm... is there one between DJ and LA?

He did at least some work on Cyborg Commando, didn't he?

Hmm, Wikipedia says Kim Mohan & Frank Mentzer designed it based on a Gygaxian outline.

 

[coyote6]

It's so very simple to prove that Gary didn't write 4E.

There are only three weapons listed as polearms in 4E Player's Handbook.
Q.E.D.

Yes, I haven't seen this page in the 4E PH.