4E, has your opinion changed?
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I'm very uncertain what to answer. In some ways 4e brings new innovations to D&D, but I really dislike the lack of options in creating your character.
I have played it and wasn't really that impressed. Yes, everything seems to run pretty smoothly, but the fact that you can't do a battle without a battle-grid kinda is a turnoff. The biggest loss of going from 2e to 3e was the fact that combat became more tactical and thus at times required a battle-grid. Now you can't even attack a kobold without it turning into a full-scale miniatures game.
I have played it and wasn't really that impressed. Yes, everything seems to run pretty smoothly, but the fact that you can't do a battle without a battle-grid kinda is a turnoff. The biggest loss of going from 2e to 3e was the fact that combat became more tactical and thus at times required a battle-grid. Now you can't even attack a kobold without it turning into a full-scale miniatures game.
Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
Note that the GSL does not apply to what you do as a houserule or put upon your website. The question is if you break copyright law then. Changing rules most likely is not a concern.I had my conversion notes for Mystara for 4E 60% done, when I at last had a look at the GSL, and found out that I will be sued for putting house rules on my homepage (Like changing the way Encounter and dayly powers work).
Abandoned 4E at once.
THIS IS JUST MY CONSIDERED OPINION; so please on edition wars in this thread.
Using Mystara might be (but would have under the OGL, too) unless you own the rights to the setting.
The interesting question is what their fansite policy will tell us about their goals to merciless hunt down fans using text verbatim from the rules, or their goals to do fans for free whatever they want since it promotes their game.
Particle_Man
Explorer
I was cautious/indifferent before I played.
Now I have played it, and I like it, I love it, I want more of it!
Now I have played it, and I like it, I love it, I want more of it!
Holy Bovine
First Post
I didn't think i would like it for a very long time. About 4 months ago I started to see more and more that i did like. When I finally got to Dm and play it I liked it. It ain't perfect but it'll do me very well for quite some time.
Aus_Snow
First Post
I wanted to like it. I really, really don't. It could've been worse, is about as kind as I can be. Oh, and some of the pictures are pretty. Um. . . yeah, that's about it.
Haven't played it, don't intend to, and probably will never have to (no-one else around here thinks much of it either - yay!)
Haven't played it, don't intend to, and probably will never have to (no-one else around here thinks much of it either - yay!)
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
Played it, don't like it.
I'm not saying it's bad...it's just not my style.
I'm not saying it's bad...it's just not my style.
Elodan
Adventurer
Missing option - like it, but indifferent before
I was pretty ambivalent about 4E. I heard good/bad things and the rest of my group didn't seem to care. As several of us got the books as gifts we decided to give it a try. So far, I've run 2 sessions of Keep on the Shadowfell (last session ended in a near TPK, one survivor) and my group is really liking 4E. The casual players were able to get up to speed quickly, the tactician loved it and the rest of us really had fun. Even our one anti-4E guy seems to be enjoying himself when we play.
I was pretty ambivalent about 4E. I heard good/bad things and the rest of my group didn't seem to care. As several of us got the books as gifts we decided to give it a try. So far, I've run 2 sessions of Keep on the Shadowfell (last session ended in a near TPK, one survivor) and my group is really liking 4E. The casual players were able to get up to speed quickly, the tactician loved it and the rest of us really had fun. Even our one anti-4E guy seems to be enjoying himself when we play.
Verdande
First Post
I've DM'd it once, and was pleasantly surprised about how easy everything was to understand. I've been DMing since 2e, and a whole bunch of systems besides D&D, and I have to say, this is the best I've had it. No more byzantine rules about what monsters to place where when and with what abilities, and NPC building isn't an exercise in frustration.
Thought I'd like it, turns out I did. Amazing, huh?
Thought I'd like it, turns out I did. Amazing, huh?
Wisdom Penalty
First Post
I need an option for:
At the announcement of 4e at GenCon - Disliked it.
As I learned more about it - Continued to dislike it.
As I learned even more about it - Indifferent.
As I learned even more about it, again - Liked it.
Played it - Like it.
My group was anti-4e from the announcement until, oh, maybe 4 or 5 months ago (which, coincidentally or not, was when our 3.5E campaign hit 12th level). Then we switched to "being open minded about 4e", and we've now played a series of test encounters (though not a true adventure), and very much enjoy the game. Will it last? I honestly don't know.
My other group has guys that play in yet other groups - and all of them were switching, so it was sorta forced on us. Good thing we're happy with it, I guess.
Wis
At the announcement of 4e at GenCon - Disliked it.
As I learned more about it - Continued to dislike it.
As I learned even more about it - Indifferent.
As I learned even more about it, again - Liked it.
Played it - Like it.
My group was anti-4e from the announcement until, oh, maybe 4 or 5 months ago (which, coincidentally or not, was when our 3.5E campaign hit 12th level). Then we switched to "being open minded about 4e", and we've now played a series of test encounters (though not a true adventure), and very much enjoy the game. Will it last? I honestly don't know.
My other group has guys that play in yet other groups - and all of them were switching, so it was sorta forced on us. Good thing we're happy with it, I guess.
Wis
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