$5 4E PHB @ GenCon!

I just realized I also have such a player and he needs his very own PHB. Man! Another reason to regret not going to GenCon.

Curse you WotC! :)
 

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So the real story behind promotion for $5PHBs is to give DMs and their groups some extra copies of the PHB and for players to get an extra copy for themsleves or a pass-along copy into the hands of a friend who is not currently playing.

This...

If I didn't already have the 4e PHB or if I was running a game and was sick of that one player who never seems to buy ANYTHING and just mooches off of everyone else, I'd strongly consider getting a PH for five bucks.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing

...and this. While 4E may be my current rpg favorite, I have a lot of love for many table top RPGs, and as Scott, Erik, and many of us on the sidelines here have said - sales/promotions like this are good for the industry and good for us. And I know most of us who run/play in games have a player who borrows our books, and $5 is an easy price to pay to get a core book into his hands.
 


But, sold at GenCon, they instead see $29.95 +$5.00 = $34.95. Which is actually a pretty substantial increase in profit. It's an increase of over 1/3!
This. Your 40% figure is right on for the publisher's cut, So Wotc is indeed making $8.99 more that it would if someone bought the same two books through normal channels. (And even more than that if someone bought one of the higher-priced hardcovers instead).

Of course a little bit of that is taken up by the cost of getting the product to Gencon and running the booth, but they're still making a nice chunk of change.
 

Hmmm, my own paranoid suspicions:

1. This is mostly so the focus at Gen Con is on WotC and 4e rather than Pathfinder - not to disrupt sales of Pathfinder (I am fairly certain that Paizo will run out early on during the con), but trying to remain the ones in the limelight.

2. Sales of RPGs in general (and 4e in particular) has been lackluster - this will attract attention, and maybe get some new folks playing 4e.

3. WotC is trying to get some good publicity - making up for some of the not so good publicity that has become a fixture of 4e and WotC in general of late.

4. All told, selling a $5 PHB with a full price book at Gen Con to pretty much everyone there is going to make a bunch of money for them. A big chunk of their overhead for the con will be taken care of.

5. And compared to the regular book sales channels selling a book to everyone at Gen Con is still not all that many books out of their total sales - it is just all happening at once, rather than spread out across the country and calendar.

6. As noted, it gets copies of the PHB into people's hands. And since a majority of the convention goers already have their own copies it is likely that these will be gifted to folks, putting them into fresh hands.

7. It disrupts sales of Fantasycraft.

So, yeah I see a touch of desperation, but not necessarily a whole lot of bullying here.

The Auld Grump
 

Did you ever get the feeling that, no matter what WotC does, some folks will see it as a sign that WotC and/or 4e are failing? :)

-O
 


This is no more a dick move than White Wolf giving away PDFs of Exalted after WotC pulled their PDF shenanigans. Or Paizo putting everything on sale afterwards.

When you see an opportunity, you go for it. Do you think a smarter move on WotC's part would be to say, "Oh, yeah, just don't really TRY to get any convention buzz!"

This is business, folks. And it's not like it will keep Paizo from selling out on the first day.

-O

Not really. Its all a matter of timing. It smacks of Pathfinder being the bizz of the ball, and then not having something that powerful marketing wise.

*shrug* But thats just my reading of it. I dont think it'll have any effect on Pathfinder at all, but thats how it has the appearance at a glance.
 

Pretty much my thoughts.

If this was announced earlier, or if it was more then just a "Only at gencon!" thing, then I would feel differently. As it stands, it seems needlessly aggressive and reactionary, and very much a "Oh crap, Pathfinder is popular - QUICK STEAL PEOPLE FROM THEM!"

Maybe it makes good business sense, but it's a complete dick move.

I don't see how this is any different from Paizo putting their PDF's on sale in response to WotC removing their PDF's from sale. Business try to outmanoeuvre their competition all the time.

I guess some people may see it differently though since it is kind of like the big bully of the playground trying to pick on the new upstart who has been getting a bit of attention from the rest of the kids. People tend to side with the little guy, which is understandable.

Olaf the Stout
 

Pfft. Saying this is about Pathfinder is like saying Geist is about Pathfinder.

It's like that guy at the party who is convinced that you were talking about him, and if you say you're not, you're trying tho hide the fact that you were talking about him.

Those are the only two options. The thought never occurs that perhaps no one was talking about him.

[ sarcasm]
A company doing some sort of promo deal for the big industry convention? I, for one, am shocked and appalled that they would use this great gathering of fans and publishers as some sort of crass marketing opportunity.
[ /sarcasm]
 

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