5e? No Fragin Way!

[GrayLinnorm]

Actually, I think the D&D-RPG staff is about three.

Number or average age?

 

[Dannager]

To the OP: Can you prove that 5th edition isn't around the corner?

I hate to break it to you but 4th edition in total hasn't lived up to what the designers thought it would.

Can you prove that?

 

[amerigoV]

5th edition is not around the Corner.

Here is the bigger question - what if WoTC released 5e and nobody cared? If you are a 3.x/Patherfinder person, you are already covered. 4e is not getting any love right now anyway, so would they miss WoTC not putting anything out for them?

Under 3, you have pretty close to a building block method for a PC to kill an Orc. Under 4e, you have great teamwork methods for the team to kill an orc. If you are into random dice to do things, pre-3e is the way to kill that orc. Is there going to be an new an interesting way to kill an orc in 5e that is going to pull people in to play it?

For me personally, Eberron is what kept me buying books during the latter days of 3e. I would pick up the occassional "Complete Commoner" along the way. But without new content, I would not have been a buyer in the later years of the cycle.

Since WotC does not want to produce modules and is only doing a couple of books per setting, that translates into few new ideas. I am a lapsed D&D player at the moment and asked in a thread about 2 months ago is their anything interesting I should pick up from 4e for cool ideas (non-player crunch) - pretty much crickets if you already have 3ed stuff (there is some stuff if you are new to D&D).

That is their issue - 3e and 4e are "too good" mechanically - the edition treadmill just will not work. If they want the sales under any edition they need some fresh ideas, not more orc-slaying methods.

Anymore, D&D is like Microsoft Office -- does anyone get excited about an new version of the suite? Its still Excel, Word, PPT and some fringe products. If a new computers come with the update, then fine, I'll use it - but the old suite works just fine. If I wind up in a group that plays version X of D&D, I'll play it as it is still rolling a d20, killing critters and taking their stuff.

 

[wlmartin]

@ Umbran / Mods

As the OP, I regret opening this thread. I didn't think ahead and opened the flood gates to plenty more of this 4e vs 5e rubbish.

I would prefer, if my say has anything to do with it, to move this thread or close it.

Also, seeing how volatile this discussion is in whatever form it appears in, it may be worth creating a ban on 5e discussions.

The 3.5 vs 4 ones are quite interesting since there are valid points among them, even if I disagree with some of them but this 5e ranting (which I am aparty to unfortunately) is turning this forum area into a minefield.

I am no longer responding (barring this helpful *grin* post) to anything discussing 5e any more, it just isnt worth the fight

 

[amerigoV]

You're no fun.

Personally, I come for the news and stay for the NerdRage. Its even more fun when you do not have any skin in the game.

 

[Aberzanzorax]

Also, seeing how volatile this discussion is in whatever form it appears in, it may be worth creating a ban on 5e discussions.

L.O.L.

I'll agree with you, they can be a pain, and often result in heated threads. However, I find it funny that you posted that there's no way it could happen, people disagreed with you, and now you want discussion of it banned.

But, as with many contentious topics, if people play nice, real discussion can occur. While YOU seem to think that only trolls and fools believe it may be the case that 5e is around the corner, there are people here who are neither and who find the directions of the major player(s) in the industry to be worth speculating upon.


I find it odd that you propose a topic, then wish for the topic to be banned.



Point of interest, as well... I am certainly guilty of posting passionately. However, if you want to start a thread on a contentious topic and keep things civil, I advise limiting the use of exclamation points or the word "Fragin".

 

[wlmartin]

L.O.L.

I'll agree with you, they can be a pain, and often result in heated threads. However, I find it funny that you posted that there's no way it could happen, people disagreed with you, and now you want discussion of it banned.

But, as with many contentious topics, if people play nice, real discussion can occur. While YOU seem to think that only trolls and fools believe it may be the case that 5e is around the corner, there are people here who are neither and who find the directions of the major player(s) in the industry to be worth speculating upon.


I find it odd that you propose a topic, then wish for the topic to be banned.



Point of interest, as well... I am certainly guilty of posting passionately. However, if you want to start a thread on a contentious topic and keep things civil, I advise limiting the use of exclamation points or the word "Fragin".

I started this topic without thinking and can hold my hands up and say sorry for doing so... I have contributed in a number of other threads discussing 5e and it became a lot more contentious than I ever thought it would be.

I am not asking for the topic to be locked because people disagreed with me... I couldn't give a monkeys about that, I am more bothered that this line of discussion is bringing the worst out of people and this is obvious since the Mod has been in to this and another 2 posts to shut them down... it really isnt on.

So just to reitorate, I didn't intend this post to become as volatile as it has become and whilst it may seem like I am contradicting myself by suggesting it should be locked, I am more bothered that the topic is bringing out a lot of bad feelings in others.

 

[Plane Sailing]

@ Umbran / Mods

As the OP, I regret opening this thread. I didn't think ahead and opened the flood gates to plenty more of this 4e vs 5e rubbish.

I would prefer, if my say has anything to do with it, to move this thread or close it.

Also, seeing how volatile this discussion is in whatever form it appears in, it may be worth creating a ban on 5e discussions.

The 3.5 vs 4 ones are quite interesting since there are valid points among them, even if I disagree with some of them but this 5e ranting (which I am aparty to unfortunately) is turning this forum area into a minefield.

I am no longer responding (barring this helpful *grin* post) to anything discussing 5e any more, it just isnt worth the fight

I think you are right in recognising that this probably wasn't the right thread at the right time.

I"ll close it now