Charlaquin
Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Wait, what? Can someone who saw that post before it was deleted shed some light on this?
D&D 5E 5E Survivor - 5th Edition Survives! [+]
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Bolares
Hero
Mind of thempest changed their mind and deleted right after posting
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing
WOW, what a ride!
Thanks everyone for participating! And for also keeping things civil and respectable, even in our disagreement. We managed to pull off a semblance of an "edition war" thread and without a single moderator warning. That has to be a first.
Congratulations to 5th Edition...a truly excellent victory, for a truly excellent edition. (I mean, you're no BECMI, but it would be weird if you were. You weren't my first vote, but you're still pretty great in my book.)
Thanks everyone for participating! And for also keeping things civil and respectable, even in our disagreement. We managed to pull off a semblance of an "edition war" thread and without a single moderator warning. That has to be a first.
Congratulations to 5th Edition...a truly excellent victory, for a truly excellent edition. (I mean, you're no BECMI, but it would be weird if you were. You weren't my first vote, but you're still pretty great in my book.)
pumasleeve
Explorer
im wondering how the results would have come in if the editions were just consolidated into 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th ignoring the variants with in each edition
Hard to know, but it certainly seems it would have really consolidated the 1st Edition vote heavily, and 3rd and 4th a little bit; if I understand things correctly 2nd Edition only covers AD&D2e and 5e obviously only covers one version, so they would be a little bit disadvantaged.
It also really wouldn't be fair... if I understand the history well enough, OD&D, AD&D 1e and Basic / BECMI are different enough from each other to be worth separating, just like 3.0e and 3.5e.
Also... that might require lumping in Pathfinder 1e with 3.0e and 3.5e, which people would most likely ignore and would be weird.
... maybe it'd also cause Pathfinder 2e and D&D 4e to share a slot... =V
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing
You can go back and look at the different "monster" threads, to get an idea of how things change with different configurations. You'd get a different result, sure, but the Survivor Thread itself probably wouldn't be any more fun to participate in.
AcererakTriple6
Autistic DM (he/him)
No one hates on anything more than the people that enjoy it. I criticize 5e, and a lot, but I also love it.
I think @Charlaquin 's point about 5e being lots of people's second favourite is a key point. 5e is an example of a very successful mainstream game - there's a decent number of people who will call it their favourite edition (hi), but it's also been designed to appeal to a broad number of people. While it isn't their favourite, it's acceptable for a very wide range of games, and the player base is huge so it's easier to get a game.
(And this is a great thing for the industry as a whole, because basically for the entire history of roleplaying games there has been a big incumbent mainstream game that most people enter the hobby via. Many of those people will discover systems that are better for the games they want to play, but the entire hobby is improved by the big mainstream game being better at drawing in new people and being good enough to use for a wide range of game styles. It's a lot easier to get people into a smaller niche if you can play a working version of it in the system your prospective players know best.
Anyway. It's half past 1am and I'm rambling. This has been a fun thread, and I'm really glad it stayed positive.)
(And this is a great thing for the industry as a whole, because basically for the entire history of roleplaying games there has been a big incumbent mainstream game that most people enter the hobby via. Many of those people will discover systems that are better for the games they want to play, but the entire hobby is improved by the big mainstream game being better at drawing in new people and being good enough to use for a wide range of game styles. It's a lot easier to get people into a smaller niche if you can play a working version of it in the system your prospective players know best.
Anyway. It's half past 1am and I'm rambling. This has been a fun thread, and I'm really glad it stayed positive.)
EzekielRaiden
Hero
Believe me, there really, really isn't.
For an extremely long time, it was very rare for a month to go by with no one making an essentially pure fluff thread about how 5e was God's gift to gamerkind and how full of sunshine and rainbows it was. Even incredibly mild criticism had a tendency to cast summon dogpile, greater. The only thing that's changed is that the honeymoon has finally worn off and people are able to actually discuss issues and difficulties in earnest.
Legatus Legionis
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I think this depends a lot on your perspective.
People who disagree with you are a lot more noticeable than people who agree, sadly. My impression has been that there has been no lack of criticism. We're probably both wrong
CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing
The next one will be delayed a bit; I've been deployed to the field with limited internet access. But stay tuned!
Argyle King
Legend
There are a lot of things I feel that 5E does well.
But the areas where I think the design could be better are things that I'm not sure how to "fix" without large changes to the core structure of the game.
Mechanically, I remember very little of 2E. I barely had a chance to interact with it before Satanic Panic took over the area where I live.
Though, for some reason, the writing style and general aesthetic of the 2E books speak to me.
But the areas where I think the design could be better are things that I'm not sure how to "fix" without large changes to the core structure of the game.
Mechanically, I remember very little of 2E. I barely had a chance to interact with it before Satanic Panic took over the area where I live.
Though, for some reason, the writing style and general aesthetic of the 2E books speak to me.
FireLance
Legend
As I said in another thread:
Because it's the second favorite edition of a lot of people, it gets a lot of criticism. But different people criticize different things.
Because it's the second favorite edition of a lot of people, it gets a lot of criticism. But different people criticize different things.
Peter BOSCO'S
Explorer
I'm in Alaska, 1:02 am on the boards time was Wednesday night for me, and the rules say "once per day", not every 24 hours.
Ancalagon
Dusty Dragon
I think that "5e is a great D&D edition" and "5e has some serious problems" are NOT contradictory statements.
I love 5e, and it has some rather serious flaws.
EzekielRaiden
Hero
All I can say is that I've repeatedly read people saying something to the effect of, "No one can say they don't actually like 5e!" Like...responding to comments of that nature has caused Problems for me in the past. And I have absolutely had people tell me that 5e has no meaningful flaws.
Geoff Thirlwell
Explorer
I was grasping at straws!
A pity that 5E won, or even ranked high.
It removed pretty much anything not hack&slash related in its quest to become as accessible as possible after 4E nearly killed D&D, meaning that D&D will for the foreseeable future remain a RPG only focused on murdering things (see recent threads about killing in D&D) instead evolving into something more.
It removed pretty much anything not hack&slash related in its quest to become as accessible as possible after 4E nearly killed D&D, meaning that D&D will for the foreseeable future remain a RPG only focused on murdering things (see recent threads about killing in D&D) instead evolving into something more.
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