D&D 5E 5E Survivor - 5th Edition Survives! [+]


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CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
WOW, what a ride!

Thanks everyone for participating! And for also keeping things civil and respectable, even in our disagreement. We managed to pull off a semblance of an "edition war" thread and without a single moderator warning. That has to be a first.

Congratulations to 5th Edition...a truly excellent victory, for a truly excellent edition. (I mean, you're no BECMI, but it would be weird if you were. You weren't my first vote, but you're still pretty great in my book.)
 

pumasleeve

Explorer
im wondering how the results would have come in if the editions were just consolidated into 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th ignoring the variants with in each edition
 

ReshiIRE

Adventurer
im wondering how the results would have come in if the editions were just consolidated into 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th ignoring the variants with in each edition
Hard to know, but it certainly seems it would have really consolidated the 1st Edition vote heavily, and 3rd and 4th a little bit; if I understand things correctly 2nd Edition only covers AD&D2e and 5e obviously only covers one version, so they would be a little bit disadvantaged.

It also really wouldn't be fair... if I understand the history well enough, OD&D, AD&D 1e and Basic / BECMI are different enough from each other to be worth separating, just like 3.0e and 3.5e.

Also... that might require lumping in Pathfinder 1e with 3.0e and 3.5e, which people would most likely ignore and would be weird.

... maybe it'd also cause Pathfinder 2e and D&D 4e to share a slot... =V
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
im wondering how the results would have come in if the editions were just consolidated into 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th ignoring the variants with in each edition
You can go back and look at the different "monster" threads, to get an idea of how things change with different configurations. You'd get a different result, sure, but the Survivor Thread itself probably wouldn't be any more fun to participate in.
 

el-remmen

Moderator Emeritus
Congratulations to 5E. I am honestly surprised given how sometimes it can seem there is a lot of 5E criticism on these forums. And I am also surprised at how long 2E lasted.

That was quite a dramatic finish!

So what's next?
 


ccooke

Adventurer
I think @Charlaquin 's point about 5e being lots of people's second favourite is a key point. 5e is an example of a very successful mainstream game - there's a decent number of people who will call it their favourite edition (hi), but it's also been designed to appeal to a broad number of people. While it isn't their favourite, it's acceptable for a very wide range of games, and the player base is huge so it's easier to get a game.

(And this is a great thing for the industry as a whole, because basically for the entire history of roleplaying games there has been a big incumbent mainstream game that most people enter the hobby via. Many of those people will discover systems that are better for the games they want to play, but the entire hobby is improved by the big mainstream game being better at drawing in new people and being good enough to use for a wide range of game styles. It's a lot easier to get people into a smaller niche if you can play a working version of it in the system your prospective players know best.

Anyway. It's half past 1am and I'm rambling. This has been a fun thread, and I'm really glad it stayed positive.)
 

Congratulations to 5E. I am honestly surprised given how sometimes it can seem there is a lot of 5E criticism on these forums. And I am also surprised at how long 2E lasted.

That was quite a dramatic finish!

So what's next?
Believe me, there really, really isn't.

For an extremely long time, it was very rare for a month to go by with no one making an essentially pure fluff thread about how 5e was God's gift to gamerkind and how full of sunshine and rainbows it was. Even incredibly mild criticism had a tendency to cast summon dogpile, greater. The only thing that's changed is that the honeymoon has finally worn off and people are able to actually discuss issues and difficulties in earnest.
 


ccooke

Adventurer
Believe me, there really, really isn't.

For an extremely long time, it was very rare for a month to go by with no one making an essentially pure fluff thread about how 5e was God's gift to gamerkind and how full of sunshine and rainbows it was. Even incredibly mild criticism had a tendency to cast summon dogpile, greater. The only thing that's changed is that the honeymoon has finally worn off and people are able to actually discuss issues and difficulties in earnest.
I think this depends a lot on your perspective.
People who disagree with you are a lot more noticeable than people who agree, sadly. My impression has been that there has been no lack of criticism. We're probably both wrong :)
 


Argyle King

Legend
There are a lot of things I feel that 5E does well.

But the areas where I think the design could be better are things that I'm not sure how to "fix" without large changes to the core structure of the game.

Mechanically, I remember very little of 2E. I barely had a chance to interact with it before Satanic Panic took over the area where I live.

Though, for some reason, the writing style and general aesthetic of the 2E books speak to me.
 

FireLance

Legend
As I said in another thread:

5E is my second favorite edition. No joke.

My relationship with 5E is like 3E showing up at my doorstep, having lost a third of their former weight, with new clothes and a new haircut, saying that they had learned a lot from 4E, and asking, now that 4E is in a coma after a terrible accident which they assure me that neither they nor their legion of devoted followers were responsible for, whether I would consider taking them back.

Because it's the second favorite edition of a lot of people, it gets a lot of criticism. But different people criticize different things.
 


Ancalagon

Dusty Dragon
Believe me, there really, really isn't.

For an extremely long time, it was very rare for a month to go by with no one making an essentially pure fluff thread about how 5e was God's gift to gamerkind and how full of sunshine and rainbows it was. Even incredibly mild criticism had a tendency to cast summon dogpile, greater. The only thing that's changed is that the honeymoon has finally worn off and people are able to actually discuss issues and difficulties in earnest.
I think that "5e is a great D&D edition" and "5e has some serious problems" are NOT contradictory statements.

I love 5e, and it has some rather serious flaws.
 

I think that "5e is a great D&D edition" and "5e has some serious problems" are NOT contradictory statements.

I love 5e, and it has some rather serious flaws.
All I can say is that I've repeatedly read people saying something to the effect of, "No one can say they don't actually like 5e!" Like...responding to comments of that nature has caused Problems for me in the past. And I have absolutely had people tell me that 5e has no meaningful flaws.
 


Ixal

Adventurer
A pity that 5E won, or even ranked high.
It removed pretty much anything not hack&slash related in its quest to become as accessible as possible after 4E nearly killed D&D, meaning that D&D will for the foreseeable future remain a RPG only focused on murdering things (see recent threads about killing in D&D) instead evolving into something more.
 

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