You are incorrect. It is never OK to call someone else a jerk on EN World. Here are the rules, in case you've forgotten them.
It's also not OK to call someone pompous. You can report problematic posts., but namecalling is not the way to handle it.
D&D 5E 5th edition Forgotten Realms: Why can't you just ignore the lore?
You are incorrect. It is never OK to call someone else a jerk on EN World. Here are the rules, in case you've forgotten them.
It's also not OK to call someone pompous. You can report problematic posts., but namecalling is not the way to handle it.
It really is a problem with the setting IMO, because in my experience with many groups (all different Realms editions) and even DMing for Encounters and RPGA events, the quality of a player isn't associated with whether or not they're a Realms enthusiast. So it's not about finding "better" players. Some FR players are amazing roleplayers, and they're excellent in various settings. But the moment you use FR, they want it to be the "living" Realms. They may or may not disrupt the game by being irritable or outright jerks, but they'll be depressed and sad that you're not using the Realms "correctly" of fully when it comes to the lore. Even if you explain beforehand that your game is half homebrew, it's still an issue. It's not good IMO to throw out good roleplayers when the issue is more about the setting, so I switch settings and guess what - everything is fine.
The primary issue, as I've said before, is about people wanting or expecting canon (or as close as possible) even though no one can follow it exactly or predict how the massively omnipresent metastory is going to change in the Realms. We can't know it all , because it's NDA and dependent on novel authors, and not everyone can collect every single book or downloadable file that's been published.
The only "out" is by having players who don't care about the Realms canon material - and if that's the case, why bother using the setting anyway?
*shrug*
To each their own.
So the problem with FR is that it's so great that people like it and want FR inside when a DM writes FR on the outside?
That's like complaining that pizza is bad since your friends like it while you like burgers. And they will only come over for diner if you serve pizza. And they will complain when you invited them for pizza and it turns out your personal recipe for pizza is a piece of grilled beef between two buns. If this stupid pizza had never been invented your friends wouldn't like it and they wouldn't complain and happily eat burgers with you. So clearly pizza is a bad food.
Depends on whether one goes by the name of Elminster.
Not what I said, at all.
It more or less is.
Question then? Why do you want to run a game in the Realms if you don't like the lore?
it isn't a question of why can't you ignore the lore...but one of how can you not ignore it? in the absence of any setting book or detailed descriptions of the world one has to ignore the lore-because it doesn't exist. sure there are place names and allusions to various heroes/gods but this is a thin reed. dmg is basically saying create your own world to the point where 5e reads like a set of rules for a generic fantasy world.
5e's 'lore' consists of vague mentions of factions and tiamat-that's it.
5e's 'lore' consists of vague mentions of factions and tiamat-that's it.
Actually during her early time as deity of magic she did just that. Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad to a big part if about why she doesn't do that anymore (hint: the deities of evil, war and destruction made clear she learned her lesson)
One suggestion might be to research the Realmslore online. Canonfire is a website that tells you most of what has been written about everything in Greyhawk, for example.
but this is searching thru editions past for sourcebooks that may or may not have any relevance (not to mention the fact that most sourcebooks are a chore to read). the default 5e setting 'lore' is basically nothing but some familiar city names and yeah you could go back and read a bunch of ed greenwood stuff and apply it to your campaign...but what's the point then? it's basically 2e or 3e settings with 5e mechanics.
but then we come back to the question of is 5e just a ruleset/set of mechanics? is it a system or a world? to the question of could you ignore the lore-with 5e there isn't any lore to ignore...so yes
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but then we come back to the question of is 5e just a ruleset/set of mechanics? is it a system or a world? to the question of could you ignore the lore-with 5e there isn't any lore to ignore...so yes
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LOL, you know what? My bad. I completely forgot that trying to talk to people rationally about the Forgotten Realms is a lot like trying to discuss politics while shouting over a jet engine that's two feet away. Very few people hear you, even if they're the ones that asked you a question, and because it's politics if there's any hint of disagreement they'll ignore you anyway.
So yeah, I'm out. Carry on!
So yeah, I'm out. Carry on!
