A mini-rant re: Pathfinder and D&D

[Nagol]

I doubt WotC wants you calling Pathfinder "D&D" as that weakens the brand and moves D&D one step closer to Kleenex/Aspirin status (losing the trademark due to widespread general adoption of the term as a category).

I doubt Paizo wants you calling Pathfinder D&D as that obfuscates their brand and hides their contribution.

Pathfinder is a fork from 3.X. As a supported fork, I expect it to continue to evolve and increase the differences from its antecedent. It is much easier to specify what fork of the hobby I am discussing so as to avoid unnecessary confusion.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Which is why I brought up not just the Ligers & Tigons, but also the Li-liger, Li-tigon, Ti-liger and Ti-tigons that are the result of breeding Ligers and Tigons back with Lions & Tigers.

Yeah, I figured that when I saw the Li-tigons and etc..

Canines get even more confusing....

The Auld Grump, one day a rooster came into our yard....

 

[Nagol]

Yeah, I figured that when I saw the Li-tigons and etc..

Canines get even more confusing....

The Auld Grump, one day a rooster came into our yard....

I thought the technical term for almost all dog crossbreeds was "mutt"?

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Yeah, I figured that when I saw the Li-tigons and etc..

Canines get even more confusing....

The Auld Grump, one day a rooster came into our yard....

Hell, we had a mother cat with tufts on her ears, indicative of some antecedents hooking up with bobcats at some point in the past. Said mother cat also wandered around much more than queens typically do, about as much as a tomcat.

Brad

 

[frankthedm]

and you'll see that lack of cross-fertility as a necessary precondition for determining species has come under a lot of fire in recent decades.

One would think science would welcome proof a species is less endangered than originally thought.

 

[Rechan]

You'll never get people to call something D&D that they don't feel/think/bla is D&D. We've had lots of threads about "What is D&D and what isn't" and calling this or that, and there's no budge.

More over, why does it matter. Play the game you like, geez.

Besides, the only reason I think people specify Pathfinder or anything else is not because "It's not D&D", but they are specifying the ruleset they are playing. It's like saying "I was having chocolate icecream last night" instead of "I was having icecream last night".

 

[caudor]

I don't think it matters what it is called as long as everyone understands the point.

But I can see how it hits a nerve for you sometimes. My dad used to get the name of D&D all wrong...constantly.

Ah, that boy is in there playing that...that...Dragons and Dungeons arrr....

For some reason, that just made me cringe.

 

[Shemeska]

It depends very much on who I'm talking with, the context of us talking, any legal considerations upon use of the terms, and being polite or not.

If people ask what I'm playing, as a generic RPG I say D&D because I treat that as a generic like Q-Tip, xerox, etc. If they also play D&D or if they ask what edition of D&D I play, I say Pathfinder. Personally I think of it as another edition of the game.

 

[billd91]

Ligers and Tigons & Polar-Grizzly hybrids, oh my!

Add in the Li-liger, Li-tigon, Ti-liger, Ti-tigon and the recently discovered hybrid black tipped sharks, and you'll see that lack of cross-fertility as a necessary precondition for determining species has come under a lot of fire in recent decades.

Just sayin'.

Yep, it's not just that they can't cross breed but also that they don't cross breed under normal (non-captive, for example) circumstances. For example, two interfertile creatures may be considered different species because their alternate activity cycles (diurnal, nocturnal) prevents them from doing so, or other reasons.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Hell, we had a mother cat with tufts on her ears, indicative of some antecedents hooking up with bobcats at some point in the past. Said mother cat also wandered around much more than queens typically do, about as much as a tomcat.

Brad

And that, son, is how we came to have a catoblepus in the hog waller.

I used to have a Maine Coon... you would not believe the many and varied descriptions of how the breed came to be... up to and including both bobcats and Mary Antoinette.

The Auld Grump