A quick question about the Sith

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

so what happens if a student no longer has anything to learn from the master?

He kills him in order to become the Master and trains a student of his own. The Master is just dead weight if you can't learn anything from him. As a Sith, it's PERSONAL power that's important. Your master (or apprentice) is only important insofar as he is useful to you.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

How do you know they didn't know that Yoda and Obi-wan were still around they might just not have cared or maybe only Vader knew and chose not to make an issue out of it Because of that small "good"part still left in his soul.

Actually, I think it's because Yoda was hiding out on a planet teeming with life and not making any flagrant use of his powers. Since living things generate the Force, all the life of that jungle planet would make it a natural hot spot that a powerful Force-user could just disappear in provided he didn't light any signal fires. Active use of the Force is what tipped Vader off to Obi-Wan's presence on the Death Star. And Luke, as an untrained but powerful user, was blundering about the galaxy like a bull in a china shop, making himself easy to notice.

 

[Black Omega]

As for there only being 2 sith lords it makes you wonder what they would have done if the Emporor Palpatine and Vader had been successful in converting Luke to the dark side surely Vader would not have helped if he knew that one of them would have to die to make room for the new boy most likely him.I do wonder however if it is not going to turn out that Palpatine was Anakin/Vader's father.I guess we will find out in 3 years.

Not too tough to guess. When Vader was trying to turn Luke he was pretty blunt about he and Luke overthrowing the Emperor. In RotJ the Emperor seems pretty content to let Luke kill Vader so Luke can take his place.

In a related note, where does it say Yoda knew there would be only two Sith?

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

In a related note, where does it say Yoda knew there would be only two Sith?

In Ep1 (funeral scene) Yoda says "Always two there are. No more. No less."

Seems like in the hundreds or thousands of years since the Sith went into hiding, it's reasonable that they would have left behind some evidence, whether mundane items or within the Force itself, of their presence and something of their M.O. Observant and wise Jedi would have picked up on this and shared it with their students even if the rest of the Jedi insisted that the threat of the Sith was dead as Ki Adi Mundi and Mace Windu did in Ep1. It would seem like legend and lore until the right catalyst (Darth Maul) came along to make everything fall together for the one or two who remembered it.

 

[Welverin]

Not too tough to guess. When Vader was trying to turn Luke he was pretty blunt about he and Luke overthrowing the Emperor. In RotJ the Emperor seems pretty content to let Luke kill Vader so Luke can take his place.

Palpy actually took it one step further and told look to strike Vader down and take his place next to him.

In a related note, where does it say Yoda knew there would be only two Sith?

"Always two there are no more no less. A master and an apprentice." -Yoda

"But which was destroyed the master or the apprentice?" -Mace, camera pans to Palpatine

Those are their exact words, which makes it pretty clear they know there are only two. Still doesn't tell us how they know (of course they had at least a thousand years to find out).

The camera pan is significant in my mind because while Lucas has refused to say if Sidious and Palpatine are the same person I do remember reading him say that there are enough clues to figure it out.

 

[Welverin]

In Ep1 (funeral scene) Yoda says "Always two there are. No more. No less."

Damn you for beating me to it!

Guess that's what I get for going out to the car in the middle of typing.

 

[Black Omega]

Thanks. I'd driven TPM from my mind, so this part was forgotten.

 

[hong]

He kills him in order to become the Master and trains a student of his own. The Master is just dead weight if you can't learn anything from him. As a Sith, it's PERSONAL power that's important. Your master (or apprentice) is only important insofar as he is useful to you.

That's a friggin' terrible career path.


Hong "and I thought _I_ had it bad" Ooi

 

[A2Z]

Actually, I think it's because Yoda was hiding out on a planet teeming with life and not making any flagrant use of his powers. Since living things generate the Force, all the life of that jungle planet would make it a natural hot spot that a powerful Force-user could just disappear in provided he didn't light any signal fires. Active use of the Force is what tipped Vader off to Obi-Wan's presence on the Death Star. And Luke, as an untrained but powerful user, was blundering about the galaxy like a bull in a china shop, making himself easy to notice.

Actually, I'm pretty sure he was able to hide on Dagoba because there was a powerful dark side site (the cave that Luke goes in to) on the planet that masked his force 'signature'.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Actually, I'm pretty sure he was able to hide on Dagoba because there was a powerful dark side site (the cave that Luke goes in to) on the planet that masked his force 'signature'.

That theory was based on an idea of how the Force worked that I think has been discredited in the last two movies. Opposing "charges" don't seem to cancel each other out at all in the films.

On a related note... I LOVE when whole reams of the books get discredited. Most of them were so bad that have to be pleased that Lucas is ignoring them.