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A supposedly great thing that I'll never watch again- Great media that left you cold

Yes but... moral judgment and artistic evaluation are two different things at all... I mean I do not evaluate a movie or a film looking the adherency from what happens in the movie and what I think must happen in a morally perfect world.
I have no problem watching e.g. Robocop, or John Wick. But if in the middle of a random Pixar movie one of our protagonists were to start shooting realistic looking humans I'd be thrown right out of those films. It's genre breaking and not at all what I was expecting to see going in - in just the same way that setting off an EMP downtown did to me for Ocean's 11.

@Jack Daniel Babylon 5 starts slowly - and two of the worst four episodes in the entire series are on the first DVD.
 

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I'm currently working my way through Babylon 5, having never seen it before, and I'm enjoying even the bad episodes. Seasons 3 and 4 (so far) have been really good. (Although, from things I've read I have fairly low expectations for season 5.)
Season 3 is the highlight and season 4 is a little rushed but great.

Season 5 has three major arcs. One is great because more Londo/G'kar is always a good thing. One's OK. And one was moved to the cutting room floor when they compressed from 5 seasons to 4 - but when they got a fifth they filmed it anyway without it having the same context in the season arcs.
 

amethal

Adventurer
Firefly and Red Dwarf. Mostly because after Farscape got cancelled, we dedicated 'scapers were all jonesing for some good sci-fi, and everyone kept recommending these two series as tonal kindred spirits. They are not. So even though my wife loves Red Dwarf and made me watch all of it, I could never get into it.
I love Red Dwarf (well, seasons 2 to 6 anyway, although the much-maligned season 7 also had its moments) but it's nothing like Farscape so I can see why you might not like it. And being "forced" to watch comedy is probably not the best way to enjoy it.

It's also very British (which you appear not to be) so maybe the humour doesn't travel very well. I did once hear an American criticising Craig Charles for "putting on a silly accent" ...
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I love Red Dwarf (well, seasons 2 to 6 anyway, although the much-maligned season 7 also had its moments) but it's nothing like Farscape so I can see why you might not like it. And being "forced" to watch comedy is probably not the best way to enjoy it.

It's also very British (which you appear not to be) so maybe the humour doesn't travel very well. I did once hear an American criticising Craig Charles for "putting on a silly accent" ...
Its American human that doesnt travel well, British humour is hillarious :)
 


Mercurius

Legend
I take it that the OP is asking for stuff that is highly regarded in geekdom, but which we find overrated? OK, off the top of my head:

(edit: After re-reading what I wrote below, I noticed a trend: most of this is stuff that I find decent or even good, just not as great as the accolades would have it. A theme, I guess).

Yea, Firefly. It is pretty good but doesn't deserve its cult adoration, imo.

The Witcher. Again, OK. But lacks that special something that really good fantasy has.

Harry Potter. I read the first book and thought it was good for what it was, but I just find the whole Potterverse annoying.

Patrick Rothfuss. I really wanted to like Name of the Wind - started it three times, I think - but just found the tone annoying. It was just too...Rothfussian. He's a guy that if you watch him on any of the countless Youtube videos he's on clearly loves hearing himself talk and being the center of attention. I saw a fantasy author panel in which he must have spoken about 70-80% of the time, with four other authors fighting for the remainder. Robin Hobb and Steven Erikson were far more insightful and barely spoke.

Labyrinth and Legend. Two highly regarded cult darlings, both annoyingly 80sish. Labyrinth is decent, though, just overrated (imo! chill). Legend is just...nevermind.

"The MCU formula". I admit, I like a good superhero and most MCU films. And some of it is funny. But it also gets tedious, the "MCU formula." The humor can be great ("That guy's playing Galaga") or just tiresome (Guardians of the Galaxy - "Hey, aren't we just so funny?!"). I've got MCU fatigue and hope they do something different going forward, but doubt they will.

Grimdark/Nihilism in general. OK, I get it: Human suffering and violence is so kewl! Torture porn for the win! Isn't life unremittingly awful?! Frankly, gritty realism is overrated--especially when it is grittier than reality almost ever is. But I do really like GoT.

Anime. Not my cuppa.

Joss Whedon. Agreed what others have said.

Blade Runner. Its a good film, but kind of boring and hugely overrated.

Star Wars Sequels. I know, I know, don't get Zard started. But these are so utterly lacking in any of the great qualities the original film had, but just have better special effects. Its like creating an android of your high school crush - very nice to look at, but with no soul or personality.

Terminator films. Yes, even the first one. Well, the first two were pretty good, but even those ran out of gas on a pretty basic scifi idea.

Brandon Sanderson. Very good world-building and magic systems, but his characters are just flat and his books just don't draw me in. I don't dislike his books, but they're just luke-warm literary experiences that so many seem to think are great.

YA. Just...enough. OK, they're a valid customer base, but it just feels like turning over the same ground, again and again, just in new clothes and whatever the self-consciously social issue of the day happens to be.

D&D. Just kidding.

I'm sure there's more, but that's enough angst for now.
 


D&D. Just kidding.

Mmmm... well. I'm 44. Sometimes I find D&D (and the whole fantasy thing) silly. I definitely approve if somebody starts an editorial line with high profile stories and plot aimed to people without adolescence issues to cope with :)
let me say aimed at people accostumed to read high brow literature. My wet dream is WOTC hiring hi level writers and creatives to design out of the standard adventures in a product line called "D&D Experiments".
 

nevin

Adventurer
Battle Star Galactica. I watched the whole thing because I saw the original and wanted to see how they ended it. but I watched the entire thing wondering why they didn't just blow up their engines and kill everyone. Nothing good happened in that entire series. It was the most depressing thing I've ever watched.
 

nevin

Adventurer
There's a few things I've actively been avoiding watching for no real reason.

The movie Titanic. Never seen it, don't want to, doesn't really interest me.

Anime also seem some don't get it doesn't interest me.
funny I've still not watched Titanic. I know how it ends and I just have no desire to watch a slow motion train wreck.
 

innerdude

Legend
I think I'm alone on this one but I find Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy unwatchable.

No, not alone. I wouldn't quite peg it as unwatchable, but despite acknowledging that they are all well-crafted films, I have little to no desire to revisit them.

Batman Begins can still suck me in, just because the first 40 minutes of the origin story is so well crafted. And it's not like if someone wanted to watch Dark Night or Dark Night Rises that I'd flat out refuse, but if I never viewed any of the 3 films again I wouldn't consider it a loss.
 

GreyLord

Hero
Battle Star Galactica. I watched the whole thing because I saw the original and wanted to see how they ended it. but I watched the entire thing wondering why they didn't just blow up their engines and kill everyone. Nothing good happened in that entire series. It was the most depressing thing I've ever watched.

Very late response here (as in...5 months later or more).

I can't judge it, as I've never been able to get through it.

I've started the first season at least 3 or 4 times and always get sooooo bored by the middle of it I just never get any further.

Another one people have constantly said was the most awesome series was Babylon 5. I cannot see what everyone sees about it. It's just cringeworthy. It just wants me want to cringe when watching it. I buckled down and watched it and kept waiting for it to "get good."

The first season was just an introduction and it would get good with season 2 they said. I watched season 2...it didn't get any better. They said it was going to blast my socks off with season 3...I think I cringed even more with season 3 than with season 2. Season 4 had everything paid off and all that you waited for finally came about. I was still waiting.

I just don't get the craze that people have for Babylon 5. Some episodes are watcheable...but there's a lot of cringe worthy stuff in there, or at least things that make me cringe watching them.
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Another one people have constantly said was the most awesome series was Babylon 5. I cannot see what everyone sees about it. It's just cringeworthy.

So, you keep using the words, "cringe" and "cringeworthy". That's like saying it is "bad", which is fine, you get to have that opinion. But it doesn't tell anyone what it was about it you didn't like.

Battlestar Galactica, I'll agree with you on. That series is unrelentingly grim. The main characters never get any successes. They are all carrying sidearms, and every episode I am left wondering why they don't just blow their own heads off.

And the half-cylon baby whose blood cures cancer? That was just too nonsensical for me to continue past.
 

I enjoyed the first 2 seasons of BSG. I think if you stop watching there you'd have a reasonably enjoyable experience. YMMV.

I would like to second Patrick Rothvuss and Brandon Sanderson as overrated.

I read the 1st chapter of Name of the Wind and it was just a big pile of boring while the main character looks on smugly. And I gather the self-insert marty stu just gets worse and worse as the thing continues. no thanks.

I agree with Mercurius that Sanderson does good world creation but dull characters. Not awful. Just not good. Average.

Oh and I like Big Bang Theory. Yes it is guilty of casting beautiful women as love interests for decidedly average looking men. (as mentioned above.) But so is 90% of film and TV.
 


GreyLord

Hero
So, you keep using the words, "cringe" and "cringeworthy". That's like saying it is "bad", which is fine, you get to have that opinion. But it doesn't tell anyone what it was about it you didn't like.

Battlestar Galactica, I'll agree with you on. That series is unrelentingly grim. The main characters never get any successes. They are all carrying sidearms, and every episode I am left wondering why they don't just blow their own heads off.

And the half-cylon baby whose blood cures cancer? That was just too nonsensical for me to continue past.
It's like saying it's bad, but there are other things that just make me shake my head. Too many to get into, and almost all of them spoilers...but...for example...

You have this guy (Mordon) that has Shadows escorting him all the time. There are at least three of them surrounding him at all times. So...then we see him go through crowded markets with people all around him...and you go...just how are those three large spiderlike Shadows avoiding everyone that easily???

There are multiple jokes regarding Mimbari and Centauri anatomy that are simply tossed in as jokes...and not very good jokes at that. Jokes that just make you embarrassed you are hearing them

Massive overacting on the parts of characters at times. Over the top acting. Franklin and Garibaldi were okay, but Delenn, Lyta, G'Kar and even Londo sometimes went far overboard where you were left wondering how far they were going to go in their acting

Marcus Cole is an extreme Mary Sue. A prime example...War without end has him and Ivanova discovered...except he just happens to decide to hide at that exact moment so they don't see him and he can ambush the guards. His reasoning is that it would be the worst thing that could happen at that moment so he just felt it would...so he hid. It's absolutely ludicrous how far they go with him...for me at least...others probably love him to death.

The jokes...did I mention the jokes. The Humor just did not do it for me. That's probably what I mean most when I say cringe worthy. I couldn't stand the humor. Most of the jokes really were bad...to me. Others' probably liked them.

I know many Babylon 5 fans will say this is not so, but it seems obvious to me that Sinclair was originally supposed to be the star and fill the shoes that Sheridan does. After the actor left the show it was rewritten with Sheridan in mind, and then with War without end they backfilled and retroactively created a story to make sense with what they had already done. The did a good job of melding it (and those two episodes are probably two of the better episodes, but they need to lay off the humor of Zathras) and making it all seem seamless, but even the initials they use...J.S., makes it the least inventive character replacement...or obvious that they originally wanted J.S. (you can pick which one) as the star.

Too much religion or religious reference in my Sci Fi. I know many like it that way, but it was so heavy handed at times that it made me cringe.

There's a lot more, but that's a small set of things that I could bring to mind.

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, and this may include BSG as well, something occurred to me that hasn't occurred to me before.

It may be more me than anything else. Though there are times I don't mind the religious overtones in a movie or show (the original Star Wars Trilogy comes to mind which has some Zen and Buddhist ideas) a lot of the shows that I don't really enjoy as many times do have religious overtones in them. Perhaps that's the biggest thing now that I think about it. That could apply to many other shows and movies beyond B5 of BSG now that I'm actually looking at those shows and one of the items that I'm not really into within them.
 
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billd91

Hobbit on Quest (he/him)
The jokes...did I mention the jokes. The Humor just did not do it for me. That's probably what I mean most when I say cringe worthy. I couldn't stand the humor. Most of the jokes really were bad...to me. Others' probably liked them.

Zooty zoot zoot.
 

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