A supposedly great thing that I'll never watch again- Great media that left you cold

[Ryujin]

While I never got that vibe, a friend of mine hates Big Bang Theory with a passion for exactly that reason, to the point where he calls it a "nerd minstrel show."

That's a good analogy.

 

[Zardnaar]

I never thought BBT was that good to begin with.

It's no Parks and Rec/Community.

 

[MarkB]

I never thought BBT was that good to begin with.

It's no Parks and Rec/Community.

Is Parks and Rec really good? I keep hearing good things about it, but I watched the first episode and couldn't stand the main character.

 

[Ath-kethin]

Definitely felt the same way about BBT. It always felt like it was laughing at geeks and nerds, not with us. Napoleon Dynamite didn't make me feel quite that way, for some reason. Maybe because it was presented more with just a "here's life" vibe, than stopping every 10 seconds for a laugh track?

Fair enough. I suppose it's also accurate to say I just didn't find anything to enjoy in Napoleon Dynamite.

 

[cmad1977]

Very late response here (as in...5 months later or more).

I can't judge it, as I've never been able to get through it.

I've started the first season at least 3 or 4 times and always get sooooo bored by the middle of it I just never get any further.

Another one people have constantly said was the most awesome series was Babylon 5. I cannot see what everyone sees about it. It's just cringeworthy. It just wants me want to cringe when watching it. I buckled down and watched it and kept waiting for it to "get good."

The first season was just an introduction and it would get good with season 2 they said. I watched season 2...it didn't get any better. They said it was going to blast my socks off with season 3...I think I cringed even more with season 3 than with season 2. Season 4 had everything paid off and all that you waited for finally came about. I was still waiting.

I just don't get the craze that people have for Babylon 5. Some episodes are watcheable...but there's a lot of cringe worthy stuff in there, or at least things that make me cringe watching them.

B5 was a thing that was great and ground-breaking in terms of storytelling.....
When it was made. Jeez.... I can’t imagine how bad it is now.

 

[cmad1977]

It's like saying it's bad, but there are other things that just make me shake my head. Too many to get into, and almost all of them spoilers...but...for example...

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You have this guy (Mordon) that has Shadows escorting him all the time. There are at least three of them surrounding him at all times. So...then we see him go through crowded markets with people all around him...and you go...just how are those three large spiderlike Shadows avoiding everyone that easily???

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There are multiple jokes regarding Mimbari and Centauri anatomy that are simply tossed in as jokes...and not very good jokes at that. Jokes that just make you embarrassed you are hearing them

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Massive overacting on the parts of characters at times. Over the top acting. Franklin and Garibaldi were okay, but Delenn, Lyta, G'Kar and even Londo sometimes went far overboard where you were left wondering how far they were going to go in their acting

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Marcus Cole is an extreme Mary Sue. A prime example...War without end has him and Ivanova discovered...except he just happens to decide to hide at that exact moment so they don't see him and he can ambush the guards. His reasoning is that it would be the worst thing that could happen at that moment so he just felt it would...so he hid. It's absolutely ludicrous how far they go with him...for me at least...others probably love him to death.

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The jokes...did I mention the jokes. The Humor just did not do it for me. That's probably what I mean most when I say cringe worthy. I couldn't stand the humor. Most of the jokes really were bad...to me. Others' probably liked them.

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I know many Babylon 5 fans will say this is not so, but it seems obvious to me that Sinclair was originally supposed to be the star and fill the shoes that Sheridan does. After the actor left the show it was rewritten with Sheridan in mind, and then with War without end they backfilled and retroactively created a story to make sense with what they had already done. The did a good job of melding it (and those two episodes are probably two of the better episodes, but they need to lay off the humor of Zathras) and making it all seem seamless, but even the initials they use...J.S., makes it the least inventive character replacement...or obvious that they originally wanted J.S. (you can pick which one) as the star.

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Too much religion or religious reference in my Sci Fi. I know many like it that way, but it was so heavy handed at times that it made me cringe.

There's a lot more, but that's a small set of things that I could bring to mind.

Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, and this may include BSG as well, something occurred to me that hasn't occurred to me before.

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It may be more me than anything else. Though there are times I don't mind the religious overtones in a movie or show (the original Star Wars Trilogy comes to mind which has some Zen and Buddhist ideas) a lot of the shows that I don't really enjoy as many times do have religious overtones in them. Perhaps that's the biggest thing now that I think about it. That could apply to many other shows and movies beyond B5 of BSG now that I'm actually looking at those shows and one of the items that I'm not really into within them.

Re: Sinclair.
The actor had psychotic break in S1 and JMS made sure to get him help AND keep it secret. Ultimately it wasn’t enough and the retiree and passed away years later. Apparently JMS swore to the guy that he would never tell anyone but the actor told him to reveal the story after he died.


But a lot of B5 just does NOT age well.

 

[cmad1977]

Napoleon Dynamite and The Big Bang Theory both seemed to be made by and for the kinds of people who harassed and beat up on me and my friends in middle school.

No thank you.

Did you get picked on by the Crochet Club?

 

[GreyLord]

Definitely felt the same way about BBT. It always felt like it was laughing at geeks and nerds, not with us. Napoleon Dynamite didn't make me feel quite that way, for some reason. Maybe because it was presented more with just a "here's life" vibe, than stopping every 10 seconds for a laugh track?

What may be different with Napoleon Dynamite is it is a semi-biographical movie based upon the life of the writer and director of the movie and his experiences in Idaho.

Talking to some individuals from rural Idaho I've actually had the comments that the movie is actually very accurate in some of it's depictions of what life is like in Southeast Idaho. It lacks some of the items and is not quote so over the top, but there is a strong resemblance between how some things happen in the film and life there. I was rather surprised by their statements in that degree. They seemed to think it was more a comedy about life in their state than anything else and loved the movie because of it (those that I talked to, this is anecdotal because obviously this is not everyone from Idaho or even a large number of them from there).

(PS: For at least a few of them, they felt it was more a story about Mormon Culture and felt that the main character absolutely represented Mormon's life and culture there more than how we may feel Napoleon represents geeks and nerds, which was also an interesting thing a few of them talked about regarding that movie).

 

[trappedslider]

(PS: For at least a few of them, they felt it was more a story about Mormon Culture and felt that the main character absolutely represented Mormon's life and culture there more than how we may feel Napoleon represents geeks and nerds, which was also an interesting thing a few of them talked about regarding that movie).

As a member of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints, i can yeah, i got strong vibes with that. Same with the small town being stuck a few decades behind everywhere else.

 

[Ryujin]

What may be different with Napoleon Dynamite is it is a semi-biographical movie based upon the life of the writer and director of the movie and his experiences in Idaho.

Talking to some individuals from rural Idaho I've actually had the comments that the movie is actually very accurate in some of it's depictions of what life is like in Southeast Idaho. It lacks some of the items and is not quote so over the top, but there is a strong resemblance between how some things happen in the film and life there. I was rather surprised by their statements in that degree. They seemed to think it was more a comedy about life in their state than anything else and loved the movie because of it (those that I talked to, this is anecdotal because obviously this is not everyone from Idaho or even a large number of them from there).

(PS: For at least a few of them, they felt it was more a story about Mormon Culture and felt that the main character absolutely represented Mormon's life and culture there more than how we may feel Napoleon represents geeks and nerds, which was also an interesting thing a few of them talked about regarding that movie).

So the ones you spoke to liked it for the same reasons I can't watch "Letterkenny." Interesting.