Well, considering how much of the races are steeped into cardboard sterotyping, how could you not get away from the notion that good Tieflings are more or less Chaotic good to Chaotic Neutral and Devas are more or less Lawful Good? Even though CG and CN aren't in the alignment panorama, it's implied by the general characteristics of a tiefling.
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Aasimar are now . . . Devas.
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The Dark Knight was a pretty popular flick. Wolverine still seems to eb the most popular X-Man...
Most of the chracters on LOST are struggling with inner "darkness" of some sort, and it's a pretty popular show. (In fact propabably the most popular character- Sawyer, is a total angst ladden, I'm a bad guy doing good character.) Even the guy who started out looking like the Goody Goody I'm a doctor that always does the right thing, turns out to have had some serious flaws.
Then there's that prison break show. or that 24 show... or even House. That guys got some angst!
Struggling with inner turmoil isn't out of style, nor will it ever be in my opinion. Too many story opportunities for characters.
Or the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth.Too much like hordelings.
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Devas works for them. Old-school devas were just "tanar'ri-ized angels," anyway, so making those protector spirits of old actual Angels and giving these guys the name is a good thing.
I'm also a huge fan of the reincarnation angle. I'm looking forward to these guys, and to the genasi. I think they'll both benefit a lot from 4e's "not just filling in the gaps" approach. "Aasimar" is a clunky name, whichever way you slice it.
However, I've gotta re-assert my disappointment in the tieflings. "Wangst" vs. "Poseur Badass" battles aside, the old tieflings had an interesting background in being the outcasts of a planar society that accepted everyone, calling in echoes of class divisions that really made Sigil sing with some Olde London kind of flavor. I wish they would've kept the "lower-class exile bastard-child orphan-on-the-streets" angle, instead of going with the old cheesecake cliche of a fallen empire of decadence.
Fortunately, the rest of the planetouched have always been a tad two-dimensional, so it'll be hard not to make 'em stronger with more attention given to them. Old school tieflings FTW, though.
I'm also a huge fan of the reincarnation angle. I'm looking forward to these guys, and to the genasi. I think they'll both benefit a lot from 4e's "not just filling in the gaps" approach. "Aasimar" is a clunky name, whichever way you slice it.
However, I've gotta re-assert my disappointment in the tieflings. "Wangst" vs. "Poseur Badass" battles aside, the old tieflings had an interesting background in being the outcasts of a planar society that accepted everyone, calling in echoes of class divisions that really made Sigil sing with some Olde London kind of flavor. I wish they would've kept the "lower-class exile bastard-child orphan-on-the-streets" angle, instead of going with the old cheesecake cliche of a fallen empire of decadence.
Fortunately, the rest of the planetouched have always been a tad two-dimensional, so it'll be hard not to make 'em stronger with more attention given to them. Old school tieflings FTW, though.
Klaus
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I know. And there's to "tief" for "depth", but rather "teufel". It was an anglicisation.Uhm... sorry to nitpick, but there is no word like "hoar" in German. The word for "high" is "hoch" and for "heights" is "Höhen"!
Cheers, LT
But now I wish I could have named them dioskouroi...
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Nahat Anoj
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I like the name "Devas." It's great, and true to D&D's sources. I hope they get a +2 Wis, +2 Cha as well. They should be good with classes having the divine power source IMO.
I like the reincarnation angle as well. I suspect that when they reincarnate, their soul is the same but their personality is different. They probably will get a feat that lets them tap into the memories of their past lives, getting bonuses to skills and the like. Actually, Jack of All Trades would be a great feat for these guys, thematically - they get the skill bonus not from aptitude necessarily, but from ancient, nearly forgotten memories .
I still hope they link the devas to the angels that remained loyal to the god slain by Asmodeus. Perhaps these angelic souls merged with devout humans, commingling their essences and bestowing a form of angelic immortality to the human souls. I like the "curse" idea as well - they are so tantalizingly close to the Astral Realms - they see it in their dreams - but they can never quite go back.
I remember reading that the 4e Manual of the Planes will have introduce a new monster with a basic writeup on how to play the monster as a PC, much like what the MM has. I suspect that this will be the first place the Deva is introduced - it'll be fully fleshed out in PHB2.
I like the reincarnation angle as well. I suspect that when they reincarnate, their soul is the same but their personality is different. They probably will get a feat that lets them tap into the memories of their past lives, getting bonuses to skills and the like. Actually, Jack of All Trades would be a great feat for these guys, thematically - they get the skill bonus not from aptitude necessarily, but from ancient, nearly forgotten memories
.I still hope they link the devas to the angels that remained loyal to the god slain by Asmodeus. Perhaps these angelic souls merged with devout humans, commingling their essences and bestowing a form of angelic immortality to the human souls. I like the "curse" idea as well - they are so tantalizingly close to the Astral Realms - they see it in their dreams - but they can never quite go back.
I remember reading that the 4e Manual of the Planes will have introduce a new monster with a basic writeup on how to play the monster as a PC, much like what the MM has. I suspect that this will be the first place the Deva is introduced - it'll be fully fleshed out in PHB2.
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Could be worse, could have been Devo.
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