About Reveille

[wedgeski]

Euch. There were alarm bells in my head from the start and the "he's saying the name of the Gods in his sleep" nonsense really blew it wide open. Joke or not, cry for help or not, what a crappy thing to do.

 

[vagabundo]

Wow. It is s a tough thing to read this morning. Still I am happy that he is not in a coma, but he seems to have some serious issues. I'm not going to really comment any more as I don't have any contact, but if he does need help I hope he finds it in RL.

I agree. But I see absolutely no evidence of any emotional harm coming from what he posted.

Several people have posted how it brought up their own painful experiences, they put their trust and time into good wishes for him and, now, to find out that it was a hoax is pretty harmful IMO.

Trust is a valuable resource and squandering it is a Bad thing...

 

[Herremann the Wise]

The guy seriously hurt a lot of people, and bringing him back would have the potential to seriously exacerbate that hurt.

This is a good point, although I'm also fairly sure despite the ban Rev may already be reading this thread.

I am not happy at these calls to un-ban him, I would ask those who have done so to think of others and not just their own feelings re Reveille.

As one person who thinks a permanent ban is unsuitable for Rev, I find the assumption that I'm thinking of only myself a little unjust. When it comes down to it, I'm a gentle soul with a high degree of empathy - in this case, not only for Rev, but also the many posters affected in this including myself. Anyway, just saying that I don't think I'm only only worrying about my own feelings in this regard.

Punishment is not easy. Sometimes it is necessary. It takes guts, more than the easy path of letting it slide - which unfortunately our society all too often advocates as being 'caring' or 'nonjudgemental'.

Again, just saying that just because I don't think punishment is the best option does not mean that I'm "letting it slide". Forgiving someone can be a hard thing to do too.

Being banned from a bulletin board is not the worst thing in the world. Respect this person as an individual and require him to take responsibility for his actions.

I hope he will be able to take responsibility for his actions in the future. In fact I just wish Rev all the best.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

 

[PoeticJustice]

This is a really fascinating incident--I don't think I've seen a board (or online community) respond to trolling like this.

What Rev did was wrong. I think he ought to be suspended, but not banned. Flamers and other assorted morons get suspended with due regularity around here, from what I can see. While the circumstances are different and baffling, procedurally I think this one is pretty simple.

 

[S'mon]

Again, just saying that just because I don't think punishment is the best option does not mean that I'm "letting it slide". Forgiving someone can be a hard thing to do too.

Punishment and forgiveness can go together, you know. It's a lot harder to forgive someone who has paid no price for their wrongdoing.

As others have indicated, I'm happy to forgive him but I don't want to see him around here again. He can go post on rpgnet.

 

[vic20]

Now, I know I probably won't get an answer, but I'd love to hear the story of how this story broke.

Perhaps it had something to do with the IP-of-origin on his posts that were ostensibly from the hospital matching with prior non-hospital posts?

Just a speculation...

 

[S'mon]

Anyway, like I said my sympathies are with the moderators, who have to make a difficult decision and stick to it. They have made the right decision.

 

[Rechan]

I actually want to deviate a second and say how classy this is of Piratecat and the other mods at EnWorld, for taking this move, opening the floor, and enforcing the personal attack rules.

Good show, guys.

 

[Sammael]

I believe that mods pointed out in the first post that their decision to ban him is not up for public debate:

We have decided to ban Reveille, as this sort of behavior - this sort of lying - can not and should not be condoned. I apologize to the many people he's friends with and who have enjoyed his posts. If you wish to discuss this decision by the moderators, it's like any other moderator call at ENW: email me, don't discuss it on the boards themselves.

 

[S'mon]

I believe that mods pointed out in the first post that their decision to ban him is not up for public debate:

In fairness though PC also posted "We have a policy of never discussing moderator action. In this case, though, I'm going to make an exception because we'll need to talk about this. It's a community issue that affects many of us" - so I can see why people would wish to talk about it, argue the ban should be temporary, and why the mods haven't red-texted them yet for doing so.

Of course I strongly feel those calling for only a temporary suspension are wrong and badly misguided.