Adjusting Genasi Abilities

[Azure Trance]

I read on a thread here (somewhere) that the Genasi (statted in a Dragon Magazine and in FRCS) weren't that spectacular as an ECL+1 race. Perhaps that same person suggested on negating the -2 CHA penalty. What are your views on this?

 

[Happiest_Sadist]

Thc CHA penalty often dosn't make sense. Consider fire genasi, the rationalization for their charisma penalty (FRCS) is they are impulsive and impatient. Does this sound more like a wis penalty to anyone else?
I don't really see a problem with it for most, as it still won't make them better than the aasimar for instance.

 

[Xarlen]

YOu would think they'd be slated to be sorcerors, Not fighters.

 

[Viktyr Gehrig]

One of the first house rules I made was re-adjusting the Aasimar and Tiefling planetouched. I negated the Tiefling's -2 Cha penalty and gave them a +2 Cha bonus, and then gave Aasimar a +2 Str to compensate.

I haven't really looked over Genasi too closely, but I'm willing to bet they need adjusted, as well.

 

[Bean 2.0]

the underlying rationalization for genasi cha bonuses is they are incredibly arrogant thinking their elemental ancestry makes them better than everyone else

 

[Khorod]

And Alexander the Great used logic to discover he was the son of Zeus. Okay his mother told him, but he spent a good part of his free time confirming it.

Part of the equation is the undervaluing of the mental stats in many of the official mechanics.

I remember the Fire Genasi, I thought it was really cool but that Charisma thing seemed wrong to me. The brightly burning fire of a charismatic, passionate person is a longtime archetype afterall...

I think all the planetouched aren't touched enough.

 

[Azure Trance]

Shoot 'em down if you want, but tell me what you think of 'em.

Air Genasi
-2 Cha (Standard Genasi reason) only (No Wis penalty)

Earth Genasi
-2 Dex (Slow & Ponderous) only (No Cha penalty)

Fire Genasi
-2 Wis (Mercurial & Capricious) only (No Cha penalty)

Water Genasi
No penalty
or
+2 Con, +2 Wis, -2 Cha

 

[Khorod]

I think Air should be -2 Int.

 

[Azure Trance]

I think Air should be -2 Int.

You mean negate their +2 INT bonus to 0, or just change it to -2 (net loss of 4 points)

 

[Khorod]

Oopsy. I didn't remember what bonus Airs had.
Given that approach, Cha -2 is fine.

Water genasin should get the modifiers- but I think Str is better than Con. I don't remember what they had, but based on your net +2... Str +2, Con +2, Wis +2, Int -2, Cha -2. I would pull out the Con & Int modifiers first.

Now that's some serious modifying