Adult: GUCK Development Forum again

[Psyckosama]

I see your point. One of the pros of monthly pregnancy resolution would be the uncertainty factor.

Yep... she doesn't know until you tell her (or she figures it out after a few early fort tests to resist nausia).

Now, how do we handle twins, triplets, etc. with this system? Have a flat chance for each race? Have a baby die for each race (e.g. Elf "litters" are 1d10-7 babies, minimum of 1 on a confirmed pregnancy) Beating the DC by X?

Personally, I'd go with the baby die. Allows us to come up with decent averages.

The flat chance would lead to d100 rolls, which I personally don't like in the d20 system.

Beating the DC is a can of worms. Imagine someone trying really hard to conceive a baby. All the couple wants is a single child, but to be sure, they use every method known to man to conveive and end up with a monstrous birth of 9 children.

Gez's system seems to be going in the direction of increased DC's for twins, etc. However, I don't think anyone is trying to get twins or triplets. It just happens, so I am not too keen on that approach.

Here's my sugestion... when you do the confermation role on a critical your roll again to conferm it. If there is a sucessful confermation, twins. If your critical AGAIN, trips. Then you conferm it... this can keep going and going until you stop rollign criticals.

Racial modifiers should increase the threat range as should magic...

Here are threat ranges:
Moderate Fertility Race: 19/20
Low/Very Low Fertility: 20
High Fertility : 17-20

Now, as for magic... add Caster Level/4 to the threat range adding up... adds some risks to useing magic to have children... you might end up with way too many.

Once it is confirmed that it's twins, additional modifiers to labour and delivery of course apply for multiple births.

Well, lets come up with the rules for giving birth and pregnancy before we start thinking about how to change them.

 

[Sorn]

Gez: So in essence, the higher you roll, the more babies you get? See my example for a couple trying very hard to get a child, and ending up with a litter.

Psyckosama:
I like that idea. Probably easier to implement than my baby dice too.

For the magic aspect, are you proposing to add that to the threat range for the mother, the father, or both?

I.e. if Commoner Susan is impregnated by Wizard Joe, does she have a higher chance for twins? If Wizard Joe does the same to Sorceress Lucy, is the chance even higher?

Well, lets come up with the rules for giving birth and pregnancy before we start thinking about how to change them.

Absolutely. Didn't mean to jump the gun here. Just wanted to make a point that there will be modifiers for carrying twins/trips/whatever, but that those modifiers occur at a later stage, not during conception.

 

[Psyckosama]

Psyckosama:
I like that idea. Probably easier to implement than my baby dice too.

For the magic aspect, are you proposing to add that to the threat range for the mother, the father, or both?

I.e. if Commoner Susan is impregnated by Wizard Joe, does she have a higher chance for twins? If Wizard Joe does the same to Sorceress Lucy, is the chance even higher?

The rolls are for the mother, never for the father... reproduction is very involved for the mother... the guy only has to cum with maybe a +1/-1 modifer depending on his potency (cums water vs. super sperm).

The woman does all the real work. Once the guy has done his 'buisness', he means absoutly nothing when the biology is conscerned.

Also, when I mentioned magic affecting the chanced for twins, ect. I was talking about fertility magic.

Absolutely. Didn't mean to jump the gun here. Just wanted to make a point that there will be modifiers for carrying twins/trips/whatever, but that those modifiers occur at a later stage, not during conception.

I know, I now... but it's too early to seriously worry about that.

 

[Vaxalon]

The woman does all the real work. Once the guy has done his 'buisness', he means absoutly nothing when the biology is conscerned.

Assuming real world biology.

 

[Psyckosama]

Oh yeah, guys, do you think you should get EXP for sex, and if so, how much for what?

 

[Sorn]

Ok, mother only is cool. And my bad re: magic. Didn't realize that you were specifically refering to fertility magic... I thought you meant magic users in general (which would make a certain amount of sense from a certain angle).

XP for sex is probably best left to DM's discretion.

 

[Psyckosama]

Assuming real world biology.

And when there is an exception to the rules, it will be noted.

 

[SinbadBleu]

Breast Size Affects

I may have missed it in going thru the large amount of messages in this topic. You have the affects of a male member size but what about the size of the females breasts.

One could you the size tables like you do for the males.

Size above normal for your race could have interesting affects on males.

Also the number of breasts could have affects too.

I finally was able to post here.

 

[Bastoche]

Breast size is much more subjective IMO than organ size (be it phallus size or orifices size) orifices and phallus was considered and not breast size. I wouldn't want to go into that kind of details and I would implicitly out that in charisma and/or comeliness (in the was case, in 3E it's arbitrary. You could in principle play an ugly high charisma character or a beautiful uncharismatic character). Since the mechanics is based on charisma and not comeliness; since breats size is a comeliness thing, it shouldn't affect the rolls IMO.

 

[Sorn]

Bastoche, my thoughts exactly. Besides, preferences on breast size vary significantly between people. Personally, I like smaller breasts, while others love mega-honking gazongas. Coming up with modifiers would be rather pointless.

Granted, a randomized racial size chart might be interesting for entertainment value. However, the size/height charts should give you a decent idea on averages. Elves should be rather small, dwarves somewhat bigger, and half-orcs pretty big, with humans across the whole range.