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[Adult] Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, thread 2

Kichwas

Half-breed, still living despite WotC racism
kolvar said:
@Arcady: Would you take the magic items and rework them?
You'd really be hitting me on my weak point with that one. In my own campaign I ripped out the entire d20/DnD magic system and replaced it with one that is much more occult like and has no permanent magic items.

I can do all sorts of other rules, such as the pregnancy and abortion 'alpha stage' rules I did up earlier (alpha as in I need to refine them for trimesters and see how they impact whatever rules for such are currently in the guide). But I'd prefer staying clear of magic items and to a lesser extent the spells; since in my own games I know I would use neither.

As long as the spells actually fit the d20 mechanics and they 'd20 method of consistant design' I'm fairly happy with them. I'm sure there's people watching this who are meticulous rules lawyers that could ensure such.


That said...

Here are my guidelines on how I think the spell redeisng should be handled:


Step 1. Figure out how powerful of an effect should be legitimate at every given spell level.

So at spell level 1 you can do xdy damage, or cause z amount of instant 'transformation / incapacitation to a victim of HD a.

Given that, how much more can you do for spell levels 2-9?

Once you've figured this out you can start to map out the spells to their proper levels.

If a spell has a save it should simply be the normal save rules: Will, Fort, Ref. No modifiers. The mods come with the spellcaster's feats, level, and so on.

Spell Resistance is a yes/no question.

Ranges on spells should be short, medium, long, or touch.


If the spell is a detect, you know it has a three round staging where concentration gives you more and more detail.

Does the current version have any charts, tables, special die rolls, or whatever?
get rid of them
Almost everything can be bundled into a skill check or save in the current edition.
Unless there is no way to handle that situation using the normal d20 mechanics the special rules should not be there.


Get where I'm going?

Just map everything to what the 3E REQUIRES.
 
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Sorn

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Arcady: Spell guidelines sound solid. Since you are already working on abortion stuff, do you want to overhaul the pregnancy section as well? I didn't even get started on it yesterday due to an allergy attack. I am pretty decent with math, so I could tackle the Magic Item section instead.
 

Anabstercorian

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Another point of interest is a section that's been in all the splat books - Non magical equipment. Here's what I think we should have in it.

Furniture (Beds, futons, cushions, and whatnot...)

New outfits (Specifically, the harlot's outfit and the catsuit, modeled in the PHB by Mialee and Lidda respectively.)

"Toys" for less than innocent play

More shackles (what? They're for securing captives. Yes, I know they're leather. They're less likely to damage the goods. No, it's nothing like that, god!)

Alchemical brews (Aphrodesiacs, viagra-esques, and birth control drugs.)

Comments?
 


Anabstercorian

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New Equipment Post

There are a few terms for sex toys used in this post. If that's a problem for you, what the heck are you even doing in this thread? I mean, seriously.

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Item......................................Cost......Weight
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Bed, One Person.....................12 sp.....75 lbs
Bed, Two-Person.....................22 sp.....140 lbs
Bed, Heart-Shaped...................8 gp......160 lbs
Bed, Masterwork.....................+420 gp...N/A
Bed Canopy, Linen...................100 gp....20 lbs
Bed Canopy, Silk....................250 gp....10 lbs
Bedroll, Average....................1 sp......5 lbs
Bedroll, Masterwork.................2 gp......3 lbs
Catsuit.............................80 gp.....3 lbs
Couch, Roman........................1 gp......20 lbs
Courtessan's Outfit.................30 gp.....2 lbs
Courtessan's Outfit, Fine...........100 gp.....2 lbs
Dildo, Small, Wood or Ceramic.......1 sp......*
Dildo, Medium, Wood or Ceramic......2 sp......*
Dildo, Large, Wood or Ceramic.......3 sp......0.25 lbs
Dildo, Small, Ivory or Copper.......2 gp.....*
Dildo, Medium, Ivory or Copper......3 gp.....0.25 lbs
Dildo, Large, Ivory or Copper.......4 gp.....0.5 lbs
Dildo, Small, Silver or Glass.......20 gp.....*
Dildo, Medium, Silver or Glass......30 gp.....0.25 lbs
Dildo, Large, Silver or Glass.......40 gp.....0.5 lbs
Dildo, Masterwork...................+10 gp...N/A
Dildo, Silver or Glass, MW..........+100 gp...N/A
Cheap Harlot's Outfit...............1 sp.....2 lbs
Leather Manacles....................8 gp......1 lb
Leather Manacles, Masterwork........80 gp.....2 lb
Pillow, Cloth.......................2 sp......0.2 lb
Pillow, Silk........................2 gp......*
Pornographic Pamphlet..............1 sp......**
Pornographic Pamphlet, MW...........5+ gp.....*
Swimsuit, Conservative..............3 sp......4 lbs (15 lbs wet)
Swimsuit, Tight.....................1 gp......1 lb (3 lbs wet)
Swimsuit, Drow......................2 gp......**
Underclothing, Chaste...............1 cp......*
Underclothing, Suggestive...........2 sp......**
Underclothing, Lingerie.............10 gp....**

* indicates the item has negligible weight.  10 of these weigh one pound.
** indicates the item has almost no weight.  100 of these weigh one pound.

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Bed, One Person: This is a wooden bed frame containing a tightly packed straw mattress. It tends to collect bugs unless the straw is changed out regularly, but it's comfy. It's sized for a single person. Alter the cost of a bed for different sized creatures as though the bed were a suit of armor.

Bed, Two Person: As a one person bed, but sized for two people.

Bed, Heart-Shaped: As a one person bed, but sized for up to three people and shaped like a heart.

Bed, Masterwork: Masterwork beds, instead of straw padding, have felt padding treated with an alchemical potion to ward off insects, and are extremely comfortable. Aside from being great spots for sex, they're excellent for bed rest, offering a +2 bonus to Heal checks for long term care to anyone who rests exclusively on a masterwork bed.

Bed Canopy: A bed canopy is a frame over a bed hung with drapes to conceal the bed from view. It can be used for privacy or modesty, made of various qualities of cloth, or decorated with all sorts of designs. Certain ornate ones might cost more than usual, or even qualify as art objects.

Bedroll:A bedroll is a tightly packed roll of blankets and padding that serves as a portable bed. It only comfortably fits one, but can be occupied by two in a pinch or three extremely close friends. A masterwork bedroll is formed of fine silk cloth with a bottom layer of tough leather, so it lasts longer and is more comfortable, and provides a +2 bonus to Heal checks to provide long term care to patients resting in it.

Catsuit: A more or less skintight body suit made from treated leather that shrinks to hug the body perfectly. It has to be personally tailored to fit properly, but allows total freedom freedom of movement and allows the use of the Body to Die For feat. The iconic character Lidda wears a catsuit.

Couch, Roman: This couch isn't meant for sleeping, but rather for relaxing and reclining. However, it's suitable for an intimate encounter in a pinch. The frame is usually wood with crushed fabric padding.

Dildos: These are carved phallic objects used to take the place of an actual penis for sexual play or masturbation. They come in a variety of sizes and materials, although expensive polished wood and ivory are the most common. Masterwork ones have perfectly formed surfaces designed specifically to increase pleasure - Ribs, little bumbs, a certain type of curvature, and so forth. Masterwork dildos provide a +2 bonus to Sexual Prowess checks made involving them.

Harlot's Outfit: This could be almost any type of highly revealing, sexually suggestive outfit, and is usually a little chilly. It can be worn in conjunction with the Body to Die For feat, but often allows very little freedom of movement due to high heeled boots or something equally debilitating. The iconic character Mialee wears a harlot's outfit.

Leather Manacles: Leather manacles are similar to normal manacles, but more comfortable and tighter. All of their Escape Artist DC's for escape are two points higher, and their break DC's are three points lower. These are also occasionally used for those saddled with a bondage fetish, and masterwork leather manacles are often full body affairs. Masterwork leather manacles gain an additional +4 bonus to their Escape Artist DC if the captive wearing it is naked.

Pillow: A soft pad made of cloth with raw fiber stuffing, such as cotton or twill. It's comfy and soft, and good for sitting. Fairies will occasionally gleefully roll around naked on silk pillows if you give them the chance.

Pornographic Pamphlet: This is a hand drawn and copied leaflet containing explicit drawings and material. Because it was drawn by hand, it's very expensive, and the quality varies dramatically from artist to artist.
Masterwork pamphlets are created by mages using Prestidigitation and Write, or by extremely skilled artists, and are thus of remarkably higher quality. They're also printed on better paper, and better bound. They also cost a fat two pounds of gold.

Swimsuit, Conservative: A concealing and modest swimsuit concealing almost the entire body under ballooning cloth, this outfit nonetheless is good for swimming, although it weighs a ton after absorbing water.

Swimsuit, Tight: A skintight suit of supple animal skin or fine fabric, this suit could range from a wet suit to a one-piece to a bikini. The Body To Die For feat can be used in conjunction with a tight swimsuit.

Swimsuit, Drow: A patina of diaphanous spiderwebs only barely covering the unmentionable anatomy of either gender, this swimsuit also supports and firms the groin or breasts dramtically, giving a +1 bonus to all effects resulting from the Body To Die For feat.

Underclothing, Chaste: Simple cotton underclothes that amply hide all unmentionables beneath opaque white cloth.

Underclothing, Suggestive: Tighter underclothes of a suggestive color, or highly revealing underclothing, or partially transparent underclothing.

Underclothing, Lingerie: Highly revealing, skin tight underclothing with exotic embroidery, perhaps of suggestive scenes.

Complete, for now.
 
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CaptainCalico

Community Supporter
Actually.......

I think the TG PrC is very apropo, if handled correctly.

Sorn said:

The Transgender Shaman is another one of those PrC's that doesn't really fly. Most cultures that have Shamans usually just kill or exile people deviating from the norm, so I doubt there would be too many TG Shamans.

You obviosly have a ton on your plate but I will point you to several books that would tend to support letting the TG Shaman PrC remain.

Y'all are doing a great job BTW:D .
 

Anabstercorian

First Post
Thanks, Captain Calico, it always feels good to be encouraged. :) Have you seen the actual class? If so, what would you recommend we change about it, if anything?
 


kolvar

First Post
Sorn said:
The pregnancy section is rather rules-light and essay-heavy. It reads more like an Anthropology textbook than a gaming supplement. More race/fantasy specific stuff needs to be added.

Eh, that was the intention originally, to give basic rules but mostly give ideas for DMs to use when creating campaigns or new races. I think, that we have to few of that stuff in the guide at the moment. Rules are fine, but as we have seen, a lot of masters and players do not see the point of sexuality in their game and I think that sexuality is more than just having a good f*** or rules for when I become pregnant and how to get rid of it.

Sorn said:
The Transgender Shaman is another one of those PrC's that doesn't really fly. Most cultures that have Shamans usually just kill or exile people deviating from the norm, so I doubt there would be too many TG Shamans.
The north american indians had some people that had holy people, who where man, that where regarded as female. Maybe the class should get rid of the "shaman" and become more of a mage. Some hentai stress the point of omnipotence in sexuality (i.e. being able to pleasure both sides). And a lot of fantasy stresses the point of the difference in female and male magic (e.g WoT, Discworld etc.). Someone, who tries to see both sides should receive power by it.
 
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Zelda Themelin

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kolvar: Agreed, to both.


Riot Gear: Nice item list.

Sex toys are very old invention indeed, dildos and all that. How about little picture-booklests? Weren't quite porn magazines, but had very similar purpose at earlier eras.
 

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