Advanced Bestiary's question

[JiCi]

(Green Ronin's Advanced Bestiary is a 3.5 book filled with over 100 templates, a very good book to create new races and monsters.)

Greetings,

One of the templates presented is "Verminoid", which is basically how to create anthropomorphic insects, like Savage Species's version but better. It is written that two of the base creature's become legs and ALL other become arms. Does this mean that any bug verminoid (ant, beetle, mantis, wasp, bee) has 2 pairs of arms, that any arachnid verminoid (spider, scorpion) has 3 pairs of arms and that a centipede verminoid has too many pairs of arms to even count, or at least like 5 pairs ?

The book gives a sample creature using a giant bombadier beetle, but it isn't stated that it can wield up to 4 weapons nor use the Multi-weapon Fighting feats.

Care to enlighten me on this one ?

Thanks in advance,

WebJiCi

 

[freyar]

I'm not with my books right now, so I can't say for sure, but, unless the template gives Multi-Weapon Fighting as a bonus feat, your verminoid would either (1) take MWF as a feat sometime or (2) take the usual penalties for fighting with multiple weapons.

A creature without this feat takes a –6 penalty on attacks made with its primary hand and a –10 penalty on attacks made with its off hands. (It has one primary hand, and all the others are off hands.)

 

[JiCi]

The template does not grant bonus feats, but it does not say that verminoids can wield many weapons at once either, hence the confusion.

 

[freyar]

I believe any creature with multiple hands can wield multiple weapons. If they have Dex 13, they can take Multiweapon Fighting to reduce the penalties.

 

[JiCi]

I see...now all I need to figure out is how many arms does a centipede verminoid get.

 

[Big Mac]

I see...now all I need to figure out is how many arms does a centipede verminoid get.

If a creature has too many arms it would be top heavy. The template should really have some of maximum built into it.

I'd think that a creature with something like 20 pairs of legs should convert into a creature more like a centaur, with some arms, but some legs staying as legs.

 

[Shade]

I see...now all I need to figure out is how many arms does a centipede verminoid get.

Less than a millipede verminoid?

I'd probably go with 8 or 10 arms.