[sblock=KD, tactics]Well, I'm happy to be direct with you KD: I can't speak for anyone else, but I think on a player level, you and I enjoy rather different styles of play. I think this has been made fairly clear. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, or what we each prefer, but I think you and I would have more difficulty enjoying the same game. Also, on a character level, I think our styles of playing a defender are also somewhat less compatible. I've not seen two defenders fight over marks quite as much as we did, and while there's nothing inherently wrong with that, either, it just makes for slightly less fun. Again, there's nothing wrong with your tactics or mine - I feel like they just don't work as well when put together.
If if you're cool with it I think Unit 16 would like to part ways with Grys. This isn't intended to be an insult or disparaging in any way, but I just feel it would work out in our best interests. Also, I hope you are not discouraged if Unit 16 would like to continue to work with Jarren and Ryda (at their discretion, of course), as their styles of play seemed to mesh better with my own, and it fits the story somewhat better. Is that cool? You cool with that? Sorry to put what probably should have been a PM in the thread but I wanted to be very open about it. Feel free to PM me if you have a problem with what I've said.[/sblock]
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No, I'll just reply.
Grys put a mark on one of Unit 16's foes because Unit 16 was being targeted and getting the crap beat out of him. Unit 16 was far from the spirit companion who was needed to heal both Ryda and Jarren, so the best option was to lower one foe's chance to hit Unit 16 and to lower some of the damage to Unit 16 if that foe did hit.
So, Grys tried to help out Unit 16. That's called good tactics.
The fact that you had "less fun" because of if it is bizarre. You should have been thanking me instead of letting it bother you.
The fact that you want to break up the group over it is bizarre as well.
I don't think our play styles are all that different and I don't see how you can claim that story fits better with some PCs in the party and not with others. Sorry, but that's a copout for whatever reason you really don't want to game with me. We haven't roleplayed long enough to illustrate any play style differences in character.
I have no idea what got your panties in a bind over Grys marking that foe. Do you even know why Grys helping out Unit 16 bothered you?
With regard to tactics, what conflct with tactics between your PC and mine are you talking about? That one mark? The mark on the dwarf at the end? Do you feel like Grys is stepping on your toes if he marks the last foe standing (which is obviously a vastly superior tactic nearly all of the time)?
Or is this all about my suggestion to make tactical suggestions in character instead of out of character and has actually nothing to do with a conflict of tactics between two PCs?
Or is it because you made a suggestion to me to not mark that foe after the fact and I didn't do it? You thought that they were going to go after Ryda and instead, the DM did the most logical thing and attacked Unit 16 four more times (the 2 scimitar foes had just hit Unit 16 four times in the previous round, so it made sense that they would continue that tactic) instead of attacking Ryda once and Unit 16 once like you thought was going to happen.
You seem to want to make suggestions to other players on how best to run their PCs OOC and are bothered when they don't do what you say. Since Grys' decision to mark that foe given the circumstances was better than him not doing so, to me it seems like you are more interested in your ideas being the ones used than the best tactics for the group. That appears to be the only reason I can think of that my tactics bother you. Because they are not YOUR tactics.
Your tactics did not bother me. In fact, nobody in the group made a single tactical decision that bothered me at all. I thought everyone did a good job. You appear to be the only one bothered by anyone else's tactical decisions. Why is that?
Is it that your idea on tactics in that particular case were wrong and mine were right (based on what the DM ended up doing) and that bothers you? Did I show you up? Or is it that you asked me to not mark that foe and I didn't do what you wanted? Is this all about you not getting your way? Is it that petty of a reason?
We didn't fight over marking. You did. I did what was best for the group at the time and subsequent rounds beared that out.
With regard to Jarren and Ryda, if you don't want to game with me, Antithetist and Mezegis and will just have to make up their own minds. They do have a track record with you, so it does make sense for them to continue gaming with you. But, will you ask them to leave if they don't do what you want them to do as well? Food for thought.
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