Adventuring while pregnant

[Laurel]

just some questions......

Would the child get to make saves of thier own?
How does target spells like baleful polymorph work?
What about flesh to stone? baby remains unstoned dies without mother turning back quick enough?
Could someone target the baby? What would it's saves be?

Mothers are said to 'feel' thier children while in the womb. They know when something is wrong- is there a big bonus for any skill check the mother does on the kid?

There are some ah- spells that are like contraceptives in the BOED I believe.... do those exsist? Are there no known plants that woman could be on or take if she knows she's going to the deed later?

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Would the child get to make saves of thier own?
How does target spells like baleful polymorph work?
What about flesh to stone? baby remains unstoned dies without mother turning back quick enough?
Could someone target the baby? What would it's saves be?

Mothers are said to 'feel' thier children while in the womb. They know when something is wrong- is there a big bonus for any skill check the mother does on the kid?

There are some ah- spells that are like contraceptives in the BOED I believe.... do those exsist? Are there no known plants that woman could be on or take if she knows she's going to the deed later?

Baleful polymorph and flesh to stone would kill the child... but, outside of that, I'm unsure of any answers to these questions.

 

[Laurel]

Some more....

Teleport- does the kid just act as more weight the mother is carrying or as another person in the equation?

Wish it to be born? (hehehehehe... oh, the ways for that one to get messed up!)

Could the spell regenerate be used? More along the lines of complete, they would seem as part of a whole that needed to be finished.....

Could you use the spell shrink to ah, shrink the baby during battle?

 

[jmucchiello]

Would the child get to make saves of thier own?

Only if specifically targetted. I would say only divinations would be able to target the child since most other spells require line of sight to the target and the child has full cover.

The child otherwise would be treated as a held object for other saving throws (esp reflex saves).

How does target spells like baleful polymorph work?

This one is ugly. Choose either: the baby is likewise polymorphed and the mother will give birth in the new form as a creature of that form; OR the baby is expelled (with no damage to either target) during the transformation and may or may not be able to survive outside the mother. The answer to this and the next question depends on how you view similar situations with swallowed whole targets. See below....

What about flesh to stone? baby remains unstoned dies without mother turning back quick enough?

I would have the baby fail automatically and if a break enchantment or stone to flesh restores the mother, then the baby is automatically restored as well.

The same applies to swallowed whole creatures. They should fail any fortitude save the swallowing creature fails. Doing it this way eliminates a lot of kooky exceptions and circumstances. Do you really want to have to guess how much is available inside the stomach of the Purple Worm after it is turned to stone? Or how many inches of stone the party has to cut through to find the swallowed companion? Yuck.

Could someone target the baby? What would it's saves be?

See above. I would give the baby an average CON equal the number of months in utero (scaled to the human 9 months for other races) and figure Fort based on the CON modifier. A fetus cannot make Reflex saves. Its Will save would be -5 since its Wisdom is no more than 1 until it attains more self-awareness at 3 post-utero months old.

Any resistance bonuses possessed by the mother apply to the baby.

Mothers are said to 'feel' thier children while in the womb. They know when something is wrong- is there a big bonus for any skill check the mother does on the kid?

When applicable, I'd give a +4 circumstance bonus to a mother's sense motive checks. But I would also give the baby a +2 aid another bonus to all skill checks (even against mom) since her instinct is to help the baby.

There are some ah- spells that are like contraceptives in the BOED I believe.... do those exsist? Are there no known plants that woman could be on or take if she knows she's going to the deed later?

Depends on the campaign. Herbal remedies (both male and female I think) are listed in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book, for example.

Teleport

The baby is just part of the mother since it cannot be separated from the mother without killing one or both of them. Would you penalize the wizard with an extra person if someone had a parasitic invasion, say a tapeworm? I wouldn't. I'd say the tapeworm is part of the host victim until it is destroyed.

 

[Sejs]

Would the child get to make saves of thier own?
How does target spells like baleful polymorph work?
What about flesh to stone? baby remains unstoned dies without mother turning back quick enough?
Could someone target the baby? What would it's saves be?

I would personally say that until born, both child and mother are treated as a single entity - that of the mother. You polymorph one, they both get polymorphed. You petrify one, they both get petrified. However, I'd also run it if that the mother has to make a fort save, pass or fail, she'd have to make an additional fort save at a flat DC (say 15, or so) or the child does not survive the experience.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

So, if a mother is poly-ed into a creature that has a different pregnancy-period: does the mother then adopt that?

After birth, can a break enchantment then turn the mother and the baby back into humans?

 

[frankthedm]

Well, I'd assume player characters don't become pregnant (or impregnate anyone, for that matter) unless their players want them to, and even then I'd only let it happen if I were running a campaign where a few months of down time were approriate; incapacitating a character for a few months and then saddling them with a dependent is not something you do to a PC unless you're the kind of DM who takes joy in screwing over your players.

so your players only die when they want to? They way you describe things logical outcomes like dying after being fatally stabbed hurts thier fun.

 

[Sejs]

So, if a mother is poly-ed into a creature that has a different pregnancy-period: does the mother then adopt that?

After birth, can a break enchantment then turn the mother and the baby back into humans?

Sounds reasonable to me, yep. It wouldn't change the status of the pregnancy - a human with one child poly'd into a dog for instance, would still have one child rather than carry a litter all of a sudden - but yeah, otherwise sounds good.

Heh, how's that for convienance? Get knocked up, poly into an egg-laying race, have some alone time in a nest, set the little tyke up with a nanny and then head off to go about your business. Just need to make sure to be there when junior hatches so he'll imprint on you as mom.

'Course I'd still do the fort save thing from above - if you're doing it with Baleful Polymorph there is still a save involved, even if you're choosing to waive it. Could be very convienant, but the process would still put potentially dangerous levels of stress on the child, so you'd better be careful.

 

[Dr. Strangemonkey]

As a Jew, I've never heard of anything outrightly forbidding use of contraceptives.

Also, there's nothing that says a group can't be both a majority and extraordinarily conservative.

Also, how is the Christian Orthodox different than the Roman Catholic Church?

Purely as an informative side note: Roman Catholics are orthodox, not all Orthodox Christians are Roman Catholic. They both have continuos traditions from the Roman Empire, just that one was east and one was west.

There was a schism, a crusade, and Turkish Empire. The schism may or may not have been bridged in the 70s, but, regardless, the two sides have gone in different directions culturally, organizationally, liturgically, on marriage, and some few theological points. Generally, there is some love from both sides.

Not pushing anything, just answering a question.

Also, here's a nice stat. Unprotected sex over one month, chance of pregnancy 25%. Unprotected sex over a year, chance of pregnancy 85%-90%.

Though it does nothing to answer the question I raised earlier regarding individual lifestyle and stress.

 

[Terwox]

Is baleful polymorph really ever going to happen for so long that the mother would give birth while in that form?
Yikes, that's something I wouldn't bother hammering out until it happens in-game...
People! We don't need all these contingencies! Leave it for a later specific question!
Just my opinion, disregard as you wish, this all seems a bit extraneous to me, though, unless you're already dealing with a polymorphed pregnancy... something...