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D&D 5E Age of Worms Adventure Path

Vienneau

Explorer
1. Friendly fire? Do you mean shooting arrows into a crowd? Because I'm a big fan of having a risk of hitting one of your own team, but my players are skeptical because it's not RaW.

We've had one TPK and one "probably should have been actually dead" situation where a Flame Bolt into the brown mold did double his hp in damage. I don't count "knocked to 0hp", that's just a regular day.

2. Expertise doubles the proficiency bonus, so a 1st level rogue should have +4, not +10?

I do find that the d20 check has too much variance. I suspect a d12 would make proficiency more relevant (and given the d12 more to do). Or possibly a system where a different die is used for different types of checks, but that would be too complex for 5e.

3. I like the modified Ankheg as a slasher idea.

4. Because my group re-started after 2 encounters, they were still 1st level when they were supposed to be 2nd level as they also went into the dungeons in an unexpected order.

5. When the group faced the 2nd swarms they used magic instead of head-to-head melee and had a lot more success. I was expected a tough battle and it was a blow-out for them, but I also had the swarms form at a rate of 1/turn because I was worried I'd kill them again.

6. Blunt and Slashing weapons are at disadvantage underwater. Piercing is your best chance of actually hitting it, and then you still only do half damage.

7. Yeah, the 5e rules on swimming are pretty lax - you get quite a few turns of breath holding - so it wasn't as tough as I expected. Plus, the party was weary after figuring out the weird so I was cutting them some slack.

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9. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that - I like having high AC/high HP creatures that take on all comers. But I understand the game logic behind it.

10. ~

11. I'm not saying the items in the written adventure should be on them - definitely unbalancing. In your conversion you say to roll for treasure, and I got a Philter of Love, Potion of Fire Breath, and two Potions of Water Breathing (plus 6 gems worth 50gp). If one of the gang is carrying a Potion of Fire Breath, it feels like he should use it. It's an interesting decision in writing a conversion - do you make every roll to maximize the time savings for DMs, or do you leave some things for the DM to do so it never plays out the exact same way?

12. The gang is definitely special. My point is that 67 hp is a lot for a 2nd level party (it is), but that the Berserker is a standard MM monster that has crazy hp given its attack roll is the same as a 4th level fighter. It's a shift in thinking.

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14. Agreed. I note page numbers for spells in my own documentation, but I suspect that might look too cluttered in your conversion.

15. ~

16. Make sure to note that two 1st spell slots are already used for Mage Armor (16 hours coverage) so that the DM doesn't accidentally cast 4 Magic Missiles at the poor party.

17. I went with the 2d8 damage and it was certainly a threat!

18. I forgot about the heavily obscured side effect of Stinking Cloud. In theory, everyone in the cloud had the blinded condition, including the zombies (because they have darkvision, which I believe is ineffective in a cloud). Another rule I had trouble with was whether characters could move when they failed their Cloud save. At first I didn't think they could (2e thinking), but after re-reading the spell, we decided they could because "retching and reeling" replaces the action, not the movement.

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20. I totally forgot the owl. The adventure only mentions it in room 9 "if Filge is sleeping", but Filge is most likely encountered in room 11, which seems like a flaw. The owl should be mentioned in both. Not sure if you want to add that to the conversion.

21. Good idea.

22. I like the 3 dungeons in part 2 individually (well, the maze looks like a pain to run, but maybe not) but all in a row after the Cairn will be too much. I also don't like the twisting required to keep it internally consistent - they're not going to take out all 3 at once, but are we to assume that the other two temples don't respond to one temple being wiped out?

I do like the Lizardman raid, but then it ends up in a dungeon in the swamp. The doppleganger dungeon seems odd - why is there such an elaborate dungeon there? I like the arena, but again there's a dungeon (the training complex itself). The ball later on is neat.

I'd like a few more big one-time encounters, maybe in the wilderness. Perhaps a chapter where they have to raid a thieves' guild or mine manager house (they really enjoyed raiding the observatory) or kidnap someone (or prevent someone from being kidnapped), or rob a corrupt mine manager (or stop a robbery). I'm still trying to figure out what they like the most.

***

So on Sunday we played out the Observatory. They easily handled the 3 skeletons at the front that no longer had poison crossbows. The Feasting Hall full of zombies really threw them, especially when they cast Detect Magic and saw that there were illusions on all the zombies. They kept trying to figure out what they couldn't see, not realizing it was the sound illusion of Magic Mouth.

Heading upstairs they thought they would be clever and steal the platinum piece off the tongue of the severed head with Mage Hand, but we decided that it still counted as touching and the Magic Mouth went off screaming "INTRUDER", alerting Filge. But Filge can't do much other than wait for them to come up, which is a bit of a design flaw.

They found the spellbook and I had to tell them that I'd get back to them about what spells are there. Going to decide that tonight.

The final encounter was fantastic. I'm really, really glad I decided to go with your conversion and not tweak anything. A Stinking Cloud to start things off got everyone in a panic. Facing what appeared to be overwhelming odds (the party has become slightly fatalistic after the TPK), they concentrated fire on Filge hoping that if he went down, the zombies and skeletons might follow. Because he's a mage, they all expected him to have just a few HP and were increasingly astounded as damage after damage plowed into him without taking him down.

Throughout most of the battle, I was pretty sure they were going to lose, but slowly they fought back and turned the tide, which is exactly perfect. One member went down to 0hp, everyone else was injured, all their spells were used up, and in the end I was torn each round between Filge surrendering or trying to fight one more round and see if he could take it. It was that close!

Once all the undead were gone and Filge was out of spells, it became inevitable. Filge could probably have had 15-20 fewer HP and things wouldn't have changed much.

Note that I did let them level up in HP as they went up the stairs as the skeletons pushed them over 900xp. They definitely needed those extra HP!

So a big thank you for helping make the final encounter so memorable!
 

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Vienneau

Explorer
Here's the spellbook I put together:

1st level: Detect Magic, Disguise Self, False Life (p239), Identify, Magic Missile, Mage Armor, Ray of Sickness (p271)
2nd level: Blindness/Deafness, Crown of Madness (p229), Gentle Repose (p245), Magic Mouth (p257), Melf's Acid Arrow (p259), Ray of Enfeeblement (p271)
3rd level: Animate Dead (p212), Fear (p239), Stinking Cloud (p278), Vampiric Touch (p285)
 

Tormyr

Adventurer
1. Friendly fire? Do you mean shooting arrows into a crowd? Because I'm a big fan of having a risk of hitting one of your own team, but my players are skeptical because it's not RaW.

We've had one TPK and one "probably should have been actually dead" situation where a Flame Bolt into the brown mold did double his hp in damage. I don't count "knocked to 0hp", that's just a regular day.

2. Expertise doubles the proficiency bonus, so a 1st level rogue should have +4, not +10?

I do find that the d20 check has too much variance. I suspect a d12 would make proficiency more relevant (and given the d12 more to do). Or possibly a system where a different die is used for different types of checks, but that would be too complex for 5e.

3. I like the modified Ankheg as a slasher idea.

4. Because my group re-started after 2 encounters, they were still 1st level when they were supposed to be 2nd level as they also went into the dungeons in an unexpected order.

5. When the group faced the 2nd swarms they used magic instead of head-to-head melee and had a lot more success. I was expected a tough battle and it was a blow-out for them, but I also had the swarms form at a rate of 1/turn because I was worried I'd kill them again.

6. Blunt and Slashing weapons are at disadvantage underwater. Piercing is your best chance of actually hitting it, and then you still only do half damage.

7. Yeah, the 5e rules on swimming are pretty lax - you get quite a few turns of breath holding - so it wasn't as tough as I expected. Plus, the party was weary after figuring out the weird so I was cutting them some slack.

8. ~

9. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that - I like having high AC/high HP creatures that take on all comers. But I understand the game logic behind it.

10. ~

11. I'm not saying the items in the written adventure should be on them - definitely unbalancing. In your conversion you say to roll for treasure, and I got a Philter of Love, Potion of Fire Breath, and two Potions of Water Breathing (plus 6 gems worth 50gp). If one of the gang is carrying a Potion of Fire Breath, it feels like he should use it. It's an interesting decision in writing a conversion - do you make every roll to maximize the time savings for DMs, or do you leave some things for the DM to do so it never plays out the exact same way?

12. The gang is definitely special. My point is that 67 hp is a lot for a 2nd level party (it is), but that the Berserker is a standard MM monster that has crazy hp given its attack roll is the same as a 4th level fighter. It's a shift in thinking.

13. ~

14. Agreed. I note page numbers for spells in my own documentation, but I suspect that might look too cluttered in your conversion.

15. ~

16. Make sure to note that two 1st spell slots are already used for Mage Armor (16 hours coverage) so that the DM doesn't accidentally cast 4 Magic Missiles at the poor party.

17. I went with the 2d8 damage and it was certainly a threat!

18. I forgot about the heavily obscured side effect of Stinking Cloud. In theory, everyone in the cloud had the blinded condition, including the zombies (because they have darkvision, which I believe is ineffective in a cloud). Another rule I had trouble with was whether characters could move when they failed their Cloud save. At first I didn't think they could (2e thinking), but after re-reading the spell, we decided they could because "retching and reeling" replaces the action, not the movement.

19. ~

20. I totally forgot the owl. The adventure only mentions it in room 9 "if Filge is sleeping", but Filge is most likely encountered in room 11, which seems like a flaw. The owl should be mentioned in both. Not sure if you want to add that to the conversion.

21. Good idea.

22. I like the 3 dungeons in part 2 individually (well, the maze looks like a pain to run, but maybe not) but all in a row after the Cairn will be too much. I also don't like the twisting required to keep it internally consistent - they're not going to take out all 3 at once, but are we to assume that the other two temples don't respond to one temple being wiped out?

I do like the Lizardman raid, but then it ends up in a dungeon in the swamp. The doppleganger dungeon seems odd - why is there such an elaborate dungeon there? I like the arena, but again there's a dungeon (the training complex itself). The ball later on is neat.

I'd like a few more big one-time encounters, maybe in the wilderness. Perhaps a chapter where they have to raid a thieves' guild or mine manager house (they really enjoyed raiding the observatory) or kidnap someone (or prevent someone from being kidnapped), or rob a corrupt mine manager (or stop a robbery). I'm still trying to figure out what they like the most.

***

So on Sunday we played out the Observatory. They easily handled the 3 skeletons at the front that no longer had poison crossbows. The Feasting Hall full of zombies really threw them, especially when they cast Detect Magic and saw that there were illusions on all the zombies. They kept trying to figure out what they couldn't see, not realizing it was the sound illusion of Magic Mouth.

Heading upstairs they thought they would be clever and steal the platinum piece off the tongue of the severed head with Mage Hand, but we decided that it still counted as touching and the Magic Mouth went off screaming "INTRUDER", alerting Filge. But Filge can't do much other than wait for them to come up, which is a bit of a design flaw.

They found the spellbook and I had to tell them that I'd get back to them about what spells are there. Going to decide that tonight.

The final encounter was fantastic. I'm really, really glad I decided to go with your conversion and not tweak anything. A Stinking Cloud to start things off got everyone in a panic. Facing what appeared to be overwhelming odds (the party has become slightly fatalistic after the TPK), they concentrated fire on Filge hoping that if he went down, the zombies and skeletons might follow. Because he's a mage, they all expected him to have just a few HP and were increasingly astounded as damage after damage plowed into him without taking him down.

Throughout most of the battle, I was pretty sure they were going to lose, but slowly they fought back and turned the tide, which is exactly perfect. One member went down to 0hp, everyone else was injured, all their spells were used up, and in the end I was torn each round between Filge surrendering or trying to fight one more round and see if he could take it. It was that close!

Once all the undead were gone and Filge was out of spells, it became inevitable. Filge could probably have had 15-20 fewer HP and things wouldn't have changed much.

Note that I did let them level up in HP as they went up the stairs as the skeletons pushed them over 900xp. They definitely needed those extra HP!

So a big thank you for helping make the final encounter so memorable!

1. No, no, my party is not so mundane as to only fire missiles into combat (which they do). I am talking about fireballs, lightning bolts, etc. Like the time the paladin was covered in worms and "cleansed" with a fireball. The time the cleric was surrounded by zombies 10 feet away and the mage put up a wall of fire facing outward to protect the cleric. The zombies walked through the wall of fire and pounded on the cleric, protected and obscured from the rest of the party by the tall flames. The time the eldritch knight fired a fireball while in magical darkness at where she thought the dragon was and hit the dragon on the side facing the party, catching most of the party in the fireball's radius. That kind of friendly fire. :)

2. This rogue is level 15. It is when the class feature that makes ability checks that have proficiency have a minimum of 10 on the die roll.

4. XP progression and level thresholds are quite different in 3.5 and 5e. You can use XP in the first chapter, but it kind of falls apart in the 2nd chapter and onward. I would recommend using milestone levelling where they basically gain a level at the start of a new chapter and partway through the chapter. When a new character comes in bring them in at the level they "should" be. It just works more smoothly.

5. The weapon list is even more strict than that. If you do not have a swim speed, the only weapons that work are a dagger, javelin, shortsword, spear, or trident. War picks, lances, rapiers, and morningstars are some piercing weapons that have disadvantage underwater.

11. I am not quite sure about your last question here. I don't make any rolls for the DMs in this conversion. Any treasure I list is what does not have a version in the DMG. I only include what needs to be changed usually. In some cases, the changes are so drastic that it is useful to have a treasure roll to spice things up a bit and have me need to do less converting. I also have the players make these rolls most of the time. It does mean that the bad guy did not get to use the super special thing, but that is okay for me.

14. You might want to take a look at my spell card generator. http://www.enworld.org/forum/rpgdownloads.php?do=download&downloadid=1119 You enter the spell information in the spreadsheet and do a mail merge to print your spell cards. I place them in trading card protectors that have nine slots to a page, and all of my spellcaster's spells are all together at my fingertips.

16. I don't list that mage armor has been cast because it is possible that they catch him without it. Also, most NPCs listed in the MM and adventure books do not show it spent, so I am following convention.

18. Most spells that affect creatures once per round give the creature the opportunity to escape the area of affect.

22. I made more terrain back then, so there were some interesting encounters. the walls in Hextor's arena were 2 inches high, and part of Erythnul's cavern was a 3 level set with rope bridge that dissassemble so you could progress through the high, medium and low portions. The maze was done with a few dozen 1 inch squares. The party could only see what they could see at the time. I took away squares that were out of their field of vision. It freaked the players out.

Chapter 4's dungeon is some old thing under the city where the bad guy moved in. The thing is, even the observatory is a "dungeon."

Anyway, I am glad everything went well!
 



thank you so much for this !!!
our current DM is taking summer break so, as I loved this in the Dungeon mags, I will be taking over and introducing them to this AoW awesomeness !!!
 


Tormyr

Adventurer
I tried to, but the ability to upload files does not seem to be working yet. [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION], do you have any insight on this?
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I tried to, but the ability to upload files does not seem to be working yet. [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION], do you have any insight on this?

Yes, I can confirm that it is not working yet. It's on a long list of post-crash repairs.
 

Tormyr

Adventurer
Anyone who needs any of these files, my monster CR calculator, encounter building calculator, or spell card generator, PM me. I will figure out how to get you the files you want.

EDIT: Never mind. [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION] and his team are awesome and already have the downloads back up and running. I uploaded all the files that had been added after the backup that enworld was restored from. Available chapters are 1-4, 6-10.
 
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Tormyr

Adventurer
Chapter 11 is available, but I have not posted it yet because my group has not finished it. Message me if you need a copy.
 

next chapters please

knowing how brutal the AP is, I house ruled some options..

40 pt buy... max 20 stat .. means +7 for main attack

due to the hardship of the waterfiend,

Alastair offered each pc either a +1 weapon or +1 armor foudn within the sphere trap from past victimised adventurers

thoght that would help

any given session I am dming between 4 and 7 pcs...

yet still its hard



almost done with Chap 1 Whisêring Cairns...

Gang is running around looking for the bones of family Land ...

Just had run in with Kullen and the gang in the Feral Dog...
went very badly for our heroes.. lol

As punishment for wasting his time, Paladin and halfOrc fighter are being taken as hostages... there they will overhear certain info about the going on of the mines, the bones and Filge.. Filge and some undead minions will lay waste to the Feral Dog and Kullen gang, in an effort to close all leads to his nefarious plans...

The rest of the party will investigate the burning Feral Dog, in hopes of finding their hostaged companions where they will find a dying Kullen
Kullen will, upon dying breathe, tell all he knows and get the party to exact revenge upon Filge, and that their friends were taken to the observatory for 'extra credit' work.. muahahahahaha

loving it so far !!!

Chap 5 and 11 onwards please
 

Dax Doomslayer

Adventurer
Wow - thanks for all this work. I'm thinking of potentially running this shortly and this is a great help. I look forward to Chapters 5 and onward!! This is a lot of work and it is greatly appreciated.
 

Shiminax

First Post
Hi everyone ! I really need some help :
I'm the DM of a d&d 5e game of Age of Worms (yeah i know, it's a 3.5 story). My friends are in the chapter 4, and i'm working on the next chapter, who's so big ! So many monster to convert and i don't know where to begin :/

Ty !
 

Tormyr

Adventurer
Hi everyone ! I really need some help :
I'm the DM of a d&d 5e game of Age of Worms (yeah i know, it's a 3.5 story). My friends are in the chapter 4, and i'm working on the next chapter, who's so big ! So many monster to convert and i don't know where to begin :/

Ty !

Might be too late for you, but the unique creatures for chapter 5 are up. That should help a bit.
 



dave2008

Legend
Tormyr,
This is awesome work - thank you for sharing! I have a quick question for you. Are you just using word or something else to make this?

Also, if you need help converting Kyuss I have a version of him up on my 5e Epic Updates: Undead thread. My version has a some specific "epic" rules, but it would very very easy to modify to match typical 5e.

Thank you again for the hard work.
 

Tormyr

Adventurer
Tormyr,
This is awesome work - thank you for sharing! I have a quick question for you. Are you just using word or something else to make this?

Also, if you need help converting Kyuss I have a version of him up on my 5e Epic Updates: Undead thread. My version has a some specific "epic" rules, but it would very very easy to modify to match typical 5e.

Thank you again for the hard work.

Yes, I just used Word and then saved it as a pdf.
 

dave2008

Legend
Yes, I just used Word and then saved it as a pdf.

If your willing to share I would be curious how you made the fading lines. I tried to do that in word for my monster stat blocks but couldn't figure it out.

Regardless, thank you again for sharing your great work!
 

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