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Bacris said:
For example, historically, as mentioned, ships / boats are considered feminine.

I'm actually of the opinion that this isn't an example of grammatical gender, but of personification. This is different than, for example, the fact that in French livre (book), is a masculine noun, and chaise (chair) is feminine. It isn't that books are like human men, and chairs like human women.

If you ask a sailor, you'll probably find the ship (and probably the sea itself) is a person, who therefore has to have a sex and social gender role. They are feminine because they are characterized like human females. Different kettle of fish.
 

Nifft said:
- Chanteuse - borrowed, but so is the rest of English.
Or stolen in a mugging in a dark alley, depending on what t-shirt one reads for philosophical and philological inspiration.
 

Eridanis said:
Or stolen in a mugging in a dark alley, depending on what t-shirt one reads for philosophical and philological inspiration.
T-shirt? That old quote?

Rifling through USENET's pockets, are we?

Old, -- N
 

Nifft said:
Ships, for one, and already mentioned above.

(Do we really need a list?)

Cheers, -- N

Referring to a ship as an "it" is still grammatical, so yes, you would need a list, which does not exist. English is only gendered for things with a sex, or that seem to have one, or are personified.
 

Umbran said:
'Cause the article also talks about the corollary. And because however technically inaccurate it is to do so, folks use the name of the law to refer to the corollary in common usage. Godwin's law itself is a pointless observation without the corollary.

I think Godwin's law is a pertinent observation. In contrast, I consider the corollary to be a recess game.
 


pawsplay said:
Referring to a ship as an "it" is still grammatical, so yes, you would need a list, which does not exist. English is only gendered for things with a sex, or that seem to have one, or are personified.
Are you claiming that a language "has gender" only if it requires gendered pronouns?

I'll freely admit that English gender is on the way out, but the language still supports them.

Cheers, -- N
 


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