D&D General AI Art for D&D: Experiments

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Is it okay if we turn this into a general AI art thread? because I used this prompt: exterior, snowy rocky landscape, beautiful female warrior is surprised when a giant skeleton armed with a huge battleaxe burst up from the frozen ground to try and recreate one of my favorite Dragon Mag covers and got this image.
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And I legit LOL'ed

The original is better, but still pretty amazing

 

[Reynard]

To my mind this shifts power away from monolithic corporate interests

Do you think corporations will not leverage GenAI in order to speed production and reduce costs?

and toward small businesses and hobbyists by eliminating most of the price of art and animation*. If the truth be told I only care about hobbies and entertainment for their own sake. In an ideal world hobbies would be upheld by pure hobbyists, with no money involved, and I think this moves us FAR in that direction

*edit: especially video. We've got dreamworks level animation available to random people now, how is that bad. Artists don't need to kiss the asses of big studios with their big computers and animation teams anymore to get their pictures made, they can - theoretically - just make it themself and throw it on youtube or sell it directly to streaming companies.

People that us GenAI for end results are not artists. GenAI is not creative, it is algorithmic. It can only emulate creativity. Without new actual art made by humans, it will stagnate and regurgitate the same garbage over and over again.

GenAI has the potential to be a useful tool in the toolbox, but it also has the potential to drown culture in unmitigated slop and create an entire generation of lowbrow consumers.

As a recent comic I saw depicts, conjuring an image with Bing no more makes you an artist than ordering from the kiosk at McDonalds makes you a chef.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

As a recent comic I saw depicts, conjuring an image with Bing no more makes you an artist than ordering from the kiosk at McDonalds makes you a chef.

And last time I checked, many more people ate at McDonald's each day than at a 3-star Michelin restaurant. While there is demand for both, the demand for food is far larger than the demand for haute cuisine. While we can lament the existence of lowbrow food consumers, I acknowledge their existence and think burger joints should be allowed to exist. Same for AI generations : I am not seeing anyone in this thread calling themselves an artist or a chef: we just make image to suit our needs, without pretense of doing art.

 

[Reynard]

And last time I checked, many more people ate at McDonald's each day than at a 3-star Michelin restaurant. While there is demand for both, the demand for food is far larger than the demand for haute cuisine. While we can lament the existence of lowbrow food consumers, I acknowledge their existence and think burger joints should be allowed to exist. Same for AI generations : I am not seeing anyone in this thread calling themselves an artist or a chef: we just make image to suit our needs, without pretense of doing art.

Read the post I responded to.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Read the post I responded to.

I understood that he referred to artists adopting AI tools to improve their productivity and becoming able to do animation of their works without the need of big studios, not us.

He also mentionned in the earlier part the possibility for hobbyists in the RPG sphere being able to have images in their hobby products at no cost, improving the free products he think should be far more numerous, which doesn't involve artists.

 

[Reynard]

I understood that he referred to artists adopting AI tools to improve their productivity and becoming able to do animation of their works without the need of big studios, not us.

He also mentionned in the earlier post the freedom of hobbyist in the RPG sphere being able to have images in their hobby products at no cost, which doesn't involve artists.

No one cares what anyone does for their home campaign.

There will undoubtedly be a tsunami of commercial gaming products using GenAI art and writing, and we will all be poorer for it. If you thought the d20 glut was bad, hold on to your buts.

 

[Parmandur]

No one cares what anyone does for their home campaign.

There will undoubtedly be a tsunami of commercial gaming products using GenAI art and writing, and we will all be poorer for it. If you thought the d20 glut was bad, hold on to your buts.

The Slôpglütening is already in full force on DriveThruRPG...

Somewhat counter-intuitively, it is the larger companies who seem to understand the appeal of boutique, human made art as a market positioning tool, while smaller and indie publishers are sort of going full hog on it.

 

[DragonLancer]

He also mentionned in the earlier part the possibility for hobbyists in the RPG sphere being able to have images in their hobby products at no cost, improving the free products he think should be far more numerous, which doesn't involve artists.

Hobbyists like us aren't the issue. We use AI for our own entertainment or our own homebrew projects. I personally don't have an issue if someone puts up a cheap couple dollar adventure on a PDF download site if they have used AI artwork - we can't all afford artists.

But AI should not be taking peoples jobs away and AI will eventually do that throughout the entertainment industry - screenwriters, novelists, artists, musicians, actors...etc, if they can get away with it.

 

[Bohandas]

Do you think corporations will not leverage GenAI in order to speed production and reduce costs?

They will but that only benefits them if small businesses and independent creators don't do the same. The big companies won;t need their big animation teams anymore but neither will anyone else.

Costly barriers to entry are the primary keeping the large businesses on top. Possibly the only thing that allows large businesses to exist period. With that barrier to entry stripped away it becomes, literally, a free-for-all. At the very mimimum it should drive price wars that will keep consumer costs low even if the hegemony isn't shattered

 

[Reynard]

The Slôpglütening is already in full force on DriveThruRPG...

Somewhat counter-intuitively, it is the larger companies who seem to understand the appeal of boutique, human made art as a market positioning tool, while smaller and indie publishers are sort of going full hog on it.

I would guess that there are more than a few RPG grifters producing that shovelware -- those same people glutting Kickstarter with half based supplements by people you never heard of emulating some video game or another.

Currently DTRPG at least has a ban on AI written content, right? And you have to disclose art made with AI?