Morkus from Orkus
Yes. D&D, not specific D&D setting elves. Again, I will direct you to the 2e and 3e elf books. You should read them. They will help you understand the default D&D elves.1) You asked for D&D Elves.
Yes they do. They exist in the default rules, which DMs can use as is for personal settings, or alter them like Dragonlance and Dark Sun do.2) D&D Elves don't exist outside of settings.
There's no gotcha involved. I was simply pointing out that settings change the default assumptions. Dragonlance and Dark Sun are two of those. You can't point to either of them and say, "Look at how D&D elves are!" You can only point to them and say, "Look at how Dragonlance specific elves are!" or "Look at how Dark Sun specific elves are!"3) Trying to 'Gotchya' me with Dark Sun is just tacky.
I'm really curious what you think the "Gotchya" with Dark Sun was.
Okay. That isn't really relevant to the default of elves in D&D. The books are not even D&D. They are books. The Dragonlance setting is the D&D, and that setting is dwarfed by FR and probably even Eberron as far as sales go.30 million copies of the Dragons Trilogy sold. That puts the Trilogy slightly behind R.A. Salvatore's entire body of work. Which puts it, and LotR as the two big "Elf" identities in our culture.
I don't believe I have actually demanded anything from you. I've simply pointed out that elves in D&D are not the conservative race you are suggesting in the OP.I'm sincerely sick of this argument, Max. You demand, I provide, you deflect and demand more. This is not a discussion on reasonable terms. This is goalposts shuffling down the field further and further.