Alignment Riddle, Or "Is This Evil?" (Kind Of Long)

[Nephet]

Simon's sacrifice was evil. Righting a wrong was good. In this case I'd say the sacrifice pushed simon more in the evil direction than righting the wrong pushed him in the good direction - so Simon became more evil. If he was already borderline neutral or good, this act would shift him to the next category. Good to neutral or neutral to evil.

 

[Olive]

Simon's sacrifice was evil. Righting a wrong was good. In this case I'd say the sacrifice pushed simon more in the evil direction than righting the wrong pushed him in the good direction - so Simon became more evil. If he was already borderline neutral or good, this act would shift him to the next category. Good to neutral or neutral to evil.

I'd say that when using evil means to good ends, evil always wins out... just like good means with evil unintended results are more good than evil.

 

[Sejs]

I don't get why some people see the sacrifice as evil. The subject being sacrificed was a corrupt cop, someone who abused their power as a police officer to falsely imprison innocent people whose only crime was to have the DA dislike them. The example given has this being not a single incident, but an ongoing arrangement. Nothing that is presented about this cop is good; this guy's M.O. is to functionally end people's lives just for the benefit of his master's whim. At least when Simon sacrificed the cop it was with the goal of helping the greater good to -stop- being abused by these kinds of people.

 

[Olive]

I don't get why some people see the sacrifice as evil. The subject being sacrificed was a corrupt cop, someone who abused their power as a police officer to falsely imprison innocent people whose only crime was to have the DA dislike them. The example given has this being not a single incident, but an ongoing arrangement. Nothing that is presented about this cop is good; this guy's M.O. is to functionally end people's lives just for the benefit of his master's whim. At least when Simon sacrificed the cop it was with the goal of helping the greater good to -stop- being abused by these kinds of people.

Because sacrificing lives gives pwoer to evil deities. Otherwise there would eb no point for them to reward it right? And giving power to evil deities, in a world where evil is a actual thing, not just a concept, it well, evil. because it makes evil stronger.

 

[Drawmack]

I'd say that when using evil means to good ends, evil always wins out... just like good means with evil unintended results are more good than evil.

If you dance with the devil, the devil don't change.... he changes you.

Max California

 

[Villano]

Because sacrificing lives gives pwoer to evil deities. Otherwise there would eb no point for them to reward it right? And giving power to evil deities, in a world where evil is a actual thing, not just a concept, it well, evil. because it makes evil stronger.

I'm not sure where that is coming from. As I pointed out earlier, the gods in the film are not evil. They are portrayed in the movie in what I'd consider to be a true neutral fashion.

If they don't consider humanity worthy of their notice, why would they consider a human death evil? It'd be like your cat bringing you a dead mouse. You don't look at the cat as evil and call it a murderer.

Heck, if you mispronounce their names, even slightly, they can't (or don't) hear you.

EDIT: I was referring to the gods there at the end, not cats. Everyone knows that cats darn well hear you, they just ignore you when they fell like it.

 

[RigaMortus]

Simon's Alignment: True Neutral with Chaotic tendancies
(because tendancies are just so cool). He pretty much keeps to himself, he doesn't go out of his way to support The System (lawful) or the rights of The Individual (chaotic), but in some small ways he is more interested in the workings of people an a person by person basis than organizations as a body, whole. Towards the end, his chaotic tendancies become a bit more pronounced when he decides to 'take down the system' but this is a reaction to a situation rather than part of his personality on a deeper, core level.

Would I shift his Alignment?: No.
He doesn't undergo a change in central behavioral tendancies, he just responds to a situation. If certain things didn't happen to him first, than he wouldn't go out of his way to bring down the system, etc etc.

Is the sacrifice of the corrupt cop an evil act?: No.
It is a neutral act - the cop that was sacrificed was in no way innocent. He was a toady for the corrupt DA, who willingly sending people to prison that commited No Crime. Additionally, the purpose of the sacrifice wasn't an evil or selfish one - the point was to remove an evil organization by expediant, magical means. It's not a Shining Beacon of Goodness and Light kind of act, but by the same token, Simon isn't doing it to attain some pinnacle of personal power, or enslave people to his will, etc etc. Not evil, not -really- all that good.. leaves it Neutral.

I think I agree with this interpretation the most...

 

[Olive]

I'm not sure where that is coming from. As I pointed out earlier, the gods in the film are not evil. They are portrayed in the movie in what I'd consider to be a true neutral fashion.

If they don't consider humanity worthy of their notice, why would they consider a human death evil? It'd be like your cat bringing you a dead mouse. You don't look at the cat as evil and call it a murderer.

I missed that bit sorry. I was all swept up in my DnD thing... that said, they sound kinda chuthulu-esque, and while some have statted those gods as CN or TN, they always sound kinda evil to me...

 

[Number47]

The important question here is not whether the act of sacrifice is good or evil. The important question is, why did you bother with this god-awful movie? I saw this movie (years ago), and if it wasn't for the fact that I was a kid and watched absolutely anything on television I probably would've walked away. This is just a bad, bad movie. The D&D movie is better.

 

[Villano]

The important question here is not whether the act of sacrifice is good or evil. The important question is, why did you bother with this god-awful movie? I saw this movie (years ago), and if it wasn't for the fact that I was a kid and watched absolutely anything on television I probably would've walked away. This is just a bad, bad movie. The D&D movie is better.

I actually like this movie. However, I did some checking for online reviews and it's one of those films that only garners 5 star or 0 star reviews. There's no middle ground. You either love it or hate it.

I think it all depends on Andrew Prine's performance. He's the strongest thing in the film and if you enjoy watching him, you'll enjoy the movie.

Of course, I don't take your criticism seriously. After all, how can I trust a guy whose icon is a cruel joke on color blind people?