D&D (2024) All about Ardlings

[MarkB]

I am less fond of the term "Idyllic", relating to NG, the Elysian plane, and ardlings.

How about "Paradisal" (or Paradisiac, Paradisaic, etcetera) relating to Paradise?

Paradise seems like it'd be a pretty idyllic place.

 

[Yaarel]

Paradise seems like it'd be a pretty idyllic place.

For me, "idyllic" means quaint and lazy and anti-technologically luddite.

It comes from an "idyl", a short poem.

It isnt what True Good is about.

 

[Parmandur]

This is only one place on the entire continent of Faerun that is like Egypt, Mulhorand. So does this mean the Ardlings hail from there? It would make sense if they did. Then they could get a proper Mulhorandi name instead of what they have now as a placeholder.

I do agree with you on the Aasimar being bland in 5e. PF1 did a much better job of presenting them. But you could get a Paladin who looks like Horus by having an Aarakocra Paladin, and a Fighter who looks Ganesh by having a Loxodon Fighter.

SCAG suggests thst Mulan Tieflings might be Egyptian style animal headed people, particularly if they are Aristoc4ats. The Pharoh of Mulhorand is easily reinterpreted as an Ardling, UT let's be teal, once they are in the PHB theybwill be all over rthe FR.

 

[Parmandur]

For me, "idyllic" means quaint and lazy and anti-technologically luddite.

It comes from an "idyl", a short poem.

It isnt what True Good is about.

That's really not how the word is used in English normally...?

 

[Yaarel]

That's really not how the word is used in English normally...?

It kinda is how "idyllic" gets used in English normally.

At best it means, "rural" and "charming".

But quaint and luddite are its connotations.

The word has its place. But it isnt what an existential realm of platonic Good is about.

"Paradise" works better − both perfect Good and even has the connotation of a sensorial "garden". But it is a sophisticated and cultivated "ideal" garden. It is more industrial and industrious.

 

[MarkB]

It kinda is how "idyllic" gets used in English normally.

At best it means, "rural" and "charming".

But quaint and luddite are its connotations.

The word has its place. But it isnt what an existential realm of platonic Good is about.

"Paradise" works better − both perfect Good and even has the connotation of a sensorial "garden". But it is a sophisticated and cultivated "ideal" garden. It is more industrial and industrious.

I admit I'm no expert on the planes, but "industrial and industrious" is not a description I associate with the plane of absolute heavenly goodness.

 

[Parmandur]

It kinda is how "idyllic" gets used in English normally.

At best it means, "rural" and "charming".

But quaint and luddite are its connotations.

The word has its place. But it isnt what an existential realm of platonic Good is about.

"Paradise" works better − both perfect Good and even has the connotation of a sensorial "garden". But it is a sophisticated and cultivated "ideal" garden. It is more industrial and industrious.

Yeah, I've never heard the word used with that connotation: "extremely happy, peaceful, or picturesque" is what comes up in the dictionary.

 

[Yaarel]

I admit I'm no expert on the planes, but "industrial and industrious" is not a description I associate with the plane of absolute heavenly goodness.

It takes effort to make the world a better place.

Even in the biblical archetype, divinity commanded the humanity to "work" the garden of Eden, namely paradise comes from effort.

 

[MarkB]

It takes effort to make the world a better place.

Even in the biblical archetype, divinity commanded the humanity to "work" the garden of Eden, namely paradise comes from effort.

Yeah, but I'm guessing that Adam and Eve didn't clear-cut the Garden of Eden and set up a lumber mill to recycle the Tree of Knowledge into a quaint cottage.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah, but I'm guessing that Adam and Eve didn't clear-cut the Garden of Eden and set up a lumber mill to recycle the Tree of Knowledge into a quaint cottage.

That's why they got kicked out, violat3d the HOA agreement