Alter self + fuse arms = easy strength

[durza120]

I am a 3rd lvl sorcerer and a 3rd lvl cleric, and i do not have enough spells yet to really help my party. (i plan on taking mystical thurge for my next lvl but i still wont have a ridiculous amount of spells) So i was wondering if i could use the alter self spell to give me extra arms, after which i could use the fuse arms spell to increase my strength score, so i wont be defenseless after i run out of spells. Since i will only have 2nd cleric spells and second sorc. spells.

 

[Darklone]

Next level should be sor4, otherwise you don't qualify for MT yet.

Fuse arms is from which book? Didn't find it in the Spell Comp.

 

[Pickaxe]

I am a 3rd lvl sorcerer and a 3rd lvl cleric, and i do not have enough spells yet to really help my party. (i plan on taking mystical thurge for my next lvl but i still wont have a ridiculous amount of spells) So i was wondering if i could use the alter self spell to give me extra arms, after which i could use the fuse arms spell to increase my strength score, so i wont be defenseless after i run out of spells. Since i will only have 2nd cleric spells and second sorc. spells.

Well, Alter Self only allows you to change to a creature of 5HD or less that is of your type. Is your character a humanoid? I'm not aware of any humanoids with extra arms.

--Axe

 

[blaze_fontane]

fuse arms is in the spell compendium i remember looking at it after my group bought it (the spell) but i could be mistaken

 

[Raylis]

Fuse Arms, Spell Compendium pg. 100

You could presumably combine Fuse Arms with Girallon's Blessing (Cleric 3, Druid 3, Sor/Wiz 3, Spell Compendium pg. 106). Since the latter provides the extra arms necessary for the former and both spells last 10 minutes/level.

 

[Darklone]

Thanks, found it now.

I don't like this sentence in the Alter Self description about "A body with extra limbs...". To me that would exclude this combination. YMMV.

 

[Deset Gled]

Fuse Arms, Spell Compendium pg. 100

You could presumable combine Fuse Arms with Girallon's Blessing (Cleric 3, Druid 3, Sor/Wiz 3, Spell Compendium pg. 106). Since the latter provides the extra arms necessary for the former and both spells last 10 minutes/level.

Both come from Savage Species. When SS came out and a player wanted to use this combo I ruled: 1. Fuse Arms counters and dispels Girallon's Blessing, and 2. Come on, seriously, dude?

 

[Korak]

Both come from Savage Species... 2. Come on, seriously, dude?

Hehehe... yeah, I mean, it blew me away that such a blatantly overpowered combo consisted of two spells printed on the same page! Who edited that book anyway?

 

[Raylis]

Both come from Savage Species. When SS came out and a player wanted to use this combo I ruled: 1. Fuse Arms counters and dispels Girallon's Blessing, and 2. Come on, seriously, dude?

Note: I said presumably

Personally, Girallon's Blessings + Fuse Arms is too munchinky for my tastes.