Am I the only one who does not like the Great Wheel?

Loath plane-hopping. Loath the planar books.

Always have, always will

I don't use alignment, I don't like a lot of the silly differentiations (demons vs. daemons vs. devils, etc.), and just generally don't "get" the whole planar thing.

I can use a cut-down version of it much more simply, and then have that only as a philosophical notion, rather than as a firm reality that mortals are able to touch.

Personal tastes only, of course.
 

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I liked the 2E names that they came up with; it so much easier to collectively refer to the Baatezu and Tanar'ri as demons; Baatezu vs. Yugoloth vs. Tanar'ri is certainly much more differentiated than devil vs. daemon vs. demon.

The Great Wheel's older than I am, and I'm rather used to the thing.
 

Course I like Planes. Without them the Titans would kicked the Gods around much more. So cheers for planes and also cheers for SL cosmology! And I know it won't be wheel like on the face of Scarn! ;)
 

Piratecat said:
I love 'em - but a custom cosmology makes sense for a lot of peoples' campaigns. I'll disagree with you about "dull," though. I think the planes are freakin' exciting.
Especially when you're talking about say oh I dunno, Edge of Infinity? ;)
 

In Urbis, I still use planes ias such, but they aren't arranged in a "Great Wheel".

Instead there are 10 "cardinal points" (Good, Evil, Law, Chaos, Earth, Fire, Water, Air, Positive Energy, Negative Energy) that serve as attractors in metaphysical space. Stable planes form where the pull of two non-opposing planes cancel each other out.

You can read about the details here.
 

you're not the only person I've ever heard of not liking the great wheel (my next campaign will probably use some thing different), but you're one of only two people I've ever heard of who actively dislikes the planes (Wombat being the other).

I love them, think they are fascinating, and generally try to make them a bit part of my campaign.
 


Galeros said:
Am I the only one who does not like the Great Wheel? It seems like almost everybody uses it, even in their hombrew worlds. While I do not like the idea of planes, besides the PMP at all. The planes just seem so dull, and political. I might have an alternate world in my homebrew world, but it is not a plane. So, who else does not like the planes?

The Great Wheel has no place IMC (without major alterations), but I still find D&D cosmology to be a fascinating read.
 

I do not use it. I have a cosmology that is similar in some respects to the one portrayed in Nobilis.

I do not dislike the great wheel - it just does not fit my "vision."
 


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