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JoeGKushner said:
Hell, I know people would love a Year of the Fiends! Lots of old stuff out there for the old fiends that still haven't been updated including Ed's old Guide to Hell and many of the denizens that made it their home.

I guess that's why people like me are sick of things that have been done to death. Fiends, giants, fey (especially poor old fey) and a few others haven't had much luck in getting the limelight in big doses.

I don't know how exactly you determine a monster is being denied the limelight, but it sure seems fiends have gotten as much limelight as any other monster except perhaps dragons.

As for fey, well, just because they have their own creature type doesn't mean they really warrant a lot coverage--a book of oozes would do few people good methinks. Still, I always got a kick of some of the surreal fey adversaries presented in the old Ars Magica RPG.
 

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Felon said:
I don't know how exactly you determine a monster is being denied the limelight, but it sure seems fiends have gotten as much limelight as any other monster except perhaps dragons.

As for fey, well, just because they have their own creature type doesn't mean they really warrant a lot coverage--a book of oozes would do few people good methinks. Still, I always got a kick of some of the surreal fey adversaries presented in the old Ars Magica RPG.
Admittedly a book of oozes probably wouldn't be a must-have (though I could be surprised), but fey consistently poll high at least here on ENWorld, and I know that I personally would buy a Draconomicon-style fey book with Draconomicon-style attention to fluff and great pictures, even with Draconomicon-style prices, in an instant. Of course, one guy on the internet certainly doesn't count for anything though :lol:
 

I loathe drow (and elves for that matter -- superpeople get old fast, and "dark" superpeople get old even faster), so that's a sourcebook I won't be buying, and probably will be vocally decrying in my group. Of course, we're all elf-haters already, so that doesn't much matter...

I want to see a frickin' sea monster theme for part of next year. Not underwater adventures, those are lame, but aquatic encounters and enemies -- the classic ship-attacked-by-Kraken scenario, a squishy aboletheriffic adventure, a Huge aquatic set. That would be sweet.
 

Banshee16 said:
How about a year of the githyanki? Or did we already have one?
No, we most certainly did not. Sure there was an adventure in Dungeon magazine a while back (3.0 edition thank you very much) and an article in Dragon magazine but that, by no means, constitutes a "Year of Githyanki".

I wouldn't hold my breath however. WotC is alergic to psionic themed releases. They can only handle one every two years at most.

I know I'm being an ass when I say this but I'm saying it anyway: non-psionic githyanki make baby Jesus cry.

WotC doesn't like psionics. A lot of people out there have had it with Drow. How about a book about shades?

Just a thought.
 

johnnype said:
WotC doesn't like psionics. A lot of people out there have had it with Drow. How about a book about shades?

I don't think this is quite accurate. A large percentage of WotC's customer base doesn't like psionics (and a smaller, but noticable, portion hates it). WotC doesn't like putting out supplements with large sections of their customer base won't use (especially to the level where they won't consider buying it).

Psionics does get some support. It will never get full support (i.e. constant releases with significant psionics material) unless most groups use psionics.
 

Remathilis said:
Complete Mage (arcane)
Complete Scoundrel (expert)
Complete Champion (divine, Dragon mag)
Complete ? (martal)

Does the "Dragon mag" comment indicate that Dragon magazine confirmed that Complete Champion is a divine-oriented book? I could see "champion" referring to a martial character just as well.
 

Felon said:
Is anyone who thinks you and others are overreacting biased, or just Ari?
Just Ari. And not for calling this an overreaction (which I agreed that this is), but for being one of the most-published WotC of next year, and, thus, obviously very biased on anything WotC-related. It was one thing when he was a freelancer who co-authored one book per year for WotC; now that he's writing 4-5 of them per year, he's practically their employee (and apparently privy to 4E information... or lack thereof).

Skewing the facts to make two books seem like an inundation, and then going on to make 4e predicitions out of all of this...definitely much ado about nada.
Opinion noted.
 

Felon said:
Does the "Dragon mag" comment indicate that Dragon magazine confirmed that Complete Champion is a divine-oriented book? I could see "champion" referring to a martial character just as well.
Complete Champion was originally named Complete Divine II. Make of that what you will.
 

johnnype said:
I wouldn't hold my breath however. WotC is alergic to psionic themed releases. They can only handle one every two years at most. I know I'm being an ass when I say this but I'm saying it anyway: non-psionic githyanki make baby Jesus cry. WotC doesn't like psionics.

God, this thread is just chock full of hyperbole. How many books should WotC be releasing about psionics or any other non-core subsystem? What would it take to make them appear non-allergenic? Why do psionicists (or warlocks or any other niche non-core class) require a constant stream of new material? Isn't it possible that they're actually playable with the existing material?
 

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