American vs European Movies = Combat vs Roleplaying ?

You forget that European movies tend to have lower budgets - thus less emphasis on stunts, expensive special effects and so on. But I mean, you can't honestly generalise and say that Hollywood movies equal munchkinism and power gaming - there's a multitude of films comming out each year - a fair share of action movies, yes, but if you think that's it you'll be missing out on a lot.

IMHO to even compare the film industries with roleplaying is a bit far fetched.

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In general I don't enjoy the films I see come out of Europe. I do enjoy Hong Kong action flicks and anime and both really need to be subtitled or have very high quality dubbing to be good. I also love american action movies and am not a fan of dramas. However I also prefer a roleplaying heavy game over a combat heavy game. So to me it seems your analogy is not even close to being correct... :)
 

I just thought I'd stop by to say that every movie you can see in Italy, unless you go and look hard for an original version, is dubbed and masterfully so (I think "Dungeons & Dragons", which I've watched in both languages, even got better somehow). CTHD, Matrix, Brotherhood of the Wolf, The Experiment, everything, even to minor movies. I think the vast majority of the population has never seen a subtitled movie.
Ilen said:
How ever I watched an Italian film about a guy who keeps the fact that he and his family are in a concentration camp a secret from his son. Anyway, I couldn't watch it with subtitles, for some reason it was just harder to keep up, I do believe there was a notable difference between the speed of conversation in that movie and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon which may actually be the only reason.
"La Vita è Bella". I really, really dislike Italian movies in general, but that one is simply wonderful. Despite the topic, it is funny, even comical, and at the same time it is very tasteful and respectful.
 

I also prefer a roleplaying heavy game, and my taste in books tends toward the literary. So that I prefer American cinema seems unlikely to me to be related to a lack of intellectual development, or even to a preference for thoughtless movies.

In fact, if I had to assert that it meant anything, I'd assert quite the contrary.

The Italian film that keeps being mentioned is 'Life is Beautiful', and its ok. As a comedy, the humor must be lost in translation, because I never got it even before the movie took a dark turn. Later, I kept feeling like I was watching Jerry Louis directing a movie about the Holocaust. The movie never quite felt either funny or touching to me, just some weird mixture of both. Like most European cinema, it felt like the guy holding the camera was going 'See, look what I'm doing!' the whole movie, which interferes with my immersion in the story. Sort of like the difference between Kurt Vonnegut and Anthony Burgess. Nobody is going to deny that Kurt is a master of English language, but his continual pretention, irony, literary devices, becomes so tiring that he often seems to be displaying his skill to the literary critics, rather than using his skills to advance a story. For my money Burgess is the better author, though I suppose some people will prefer the fashionable Kurt, because hey, he is fashionable.
 

Psychotic Dreamer said:
I do enjoy Hong Kong action flicks and anime and both really need to be subtitled or have very high quality dubbing to be good.

The best dubbing ever is in Bruce Lee's Return of the Dragon. There's a scene where the Italian gangsters are talking to the chinese restaurant owners thru an interpreter... but both the Italian and the Chinese are dubbed into English! It's so funny it hurts.

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Psion said:
I'm just going to ignore the analogy because I think it's wrong.
Like any gross generalisation . Agreed



Sure we have True Lies (and much like D&D, it outsells the artsy segment of the media), but we also have The Usual Suspects. :)

Did you choose True lies as an example because it's a (action-enhanced) remake of the french movie "la totale" ?



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