Pathfinder 1E An open letter to Paizo

[crazy_monkey1956]

Are you serious? If so, that's very Barty Crouch of you.

-Samir

Forgive the ignorance, but what is Barty Crouch?

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Yep, no beer. Personal reasons aside, I use the stance as a message to my kids that such things are harmful and if they want to try it, they will have to do so a) when it is legal for them to and b) when they can afford to with their own money.

I think B will come sooner than A, based on my high school and college experiences.

This is a thread derail, but since you brought it up, it brings up an interesting point:

I also make it quite clear to them that if they break the law in any fashion, not only will mom and dad not bail them out, we will turn them in if we are the ones to catch them.

Let's say your oldest child is 16 years old and calls from what you thought would be a party with no alcohol. Everyone at the party is too drunk to drive and he or she wants to come home, since they're not comfortable there. Are you calling the cops at that point, or going to pick him or her up? If he or she thinks you're going to call the cops, does that increase the odds of getting in the car with a drunken teenaged driver instead?

Kids are going to experiment with this stuff, or at least be curious about it. I'm not sure an absolutist stance prepares them for the situations they'll find themselves in.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Forgive the ignorance, but what is Barty Crouch?

Harry Potter character. I don't get the reference, either.

 

[MrFilthyIke]

The Harry Potter character, possibly. *shrug*

 

[crazy_monkey1956]

If your kids already know enough to associate "baked" primarily with drugs, this doll is certainly *not* going to teach them anything new.

As a matter of fact, if they are "sophisticated" enough to get the jokes in the ad copy, you have already long since "failed" to "protect" them from the evil "reality".


<Pre-emptive edit>
I had a lot more to say, but don't want to tap-dance on the edges of the board rules (or stomp them).

So I will just say, this is a silly complaint, about a ridiculous product.
If this is your biggest concern today...

Again, only from my perspective as a parent, I prefer to talk to my kids about these kind of topics before they are exposed to it out in the "real" world. So, while they don't know what "baked" means, they do know about illegal drugs and what their parents think about them.

 

[raltgaither]

Yeah, illegal drugs cause harm. They also provide a lot of pleasure. Just like legal drugs such as alcohol and tobacco, that's why they exist.

Don't forget caffeine, the only drug you're encouraged to--and that companies are allowed to spend millions of dollars to help you to--get your kids addicted to at the earliest possible age through cola and chocolate. :-/

 

[Vocenoctum]

Forgive the ignorance, but what is Barty Crouch?

Harry Potter character, father was champion of justice, son a death eater, father sentenced son to prison.

 

[The Thayan Menace]

RE: The Crouchmeister

Forgive the ignorance, but what is Barty Crouch?

Sorry to overextend my geek cred; he's a Harry Potter character who imprisoned his own son.

-Samir

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I think the main issue is that those er "in favor" of the doll are more trying to undermine his opinion rather than state their own. Saying you don't mind the doll (I personally find it just plane dumb, but can't really boycott Paizo since I don't by anything from them anyway) is different than saying he's wrong for minding it.

I think you are mischaracterizing the objections to his objection.

When someone calls upon a merchant that I do patronize and do have an account with to stop selling legal-to-own materials to me because he disagrees with the material, he is attempting to effectively become my parent. To object to that isn't undermining his opinion, it's raising a very rational and reasonable objection.

Like it or not, his parenting takes place in his home, in his relationship with his kids. Attempting to remake the world in what he believes to be a kid-friendly image is not only impossible, it is objectionable.

 

[The Thayan Menace]

Back to the Mines!

Don't forget caffeine, the only drug you're encouraged to--and that companies are allowed to spend millions of dollars to help you to--get your kids addicted to at the earliest possible age through cola and chocolate.

That's because caffeine helps people focus and work long hours.

-S.A.