[Ancient Awakenings Publications] VoFT now $5.00 / Observations of PDF prices...

mroberon1972

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After much in the way of discussion, both here and elsewhere, It has occured to me the following:

1. As a new publisher, I cannot charge what a product is really worth. This is due to my lack of 'publisher cred'. No one can really know what my product is going to be like, and reviews only do so much to offset this. Even a demo of the product cannot offset this, since it still does not allow them to know if the rest of the book will be better, worse, or the same as what I represented.

2. It seems that $5.00 is the most loved price of PDF documents. Some of this may be due to the price and payment guides set down by RPGNOW, but I think it also has to do with how the customer sees his money. $6.59 is seen as an amount paid for a new paperback book, and therefor makes PDFs seem expensive, since the customer feels he must still print it out. $5.00 is more the cost of a fast food meal, and therefore the more permanent PDF looks better for the money.

3. PDF is still a young market, and many customers still feel apathy toward the medium due to the complexities of its effective use. Every RPGer knows how to use a book, but not every RPGer knows how to use a computer. Even less know how to use the Acrobat software.

4. Most RPGers just love books. No matter how good a PDF is, it's not a book.


All of these perceptions color the way people see the value of a PDF release. Generally, raising the cost past $5.00, no matter the value of the book, reduces the number of customers who will buy your book by possibly massive numbers.

Sadly, this also seems to create a self-fulfilling prophesy: People see PDFs as low quality. Publishers fail to make enough money from thier products. Publishers reduce things such as art to keep production costs down to make a profit.

This is why I am now lowering the price of 'The Valley of Frozen Tears' to $5.00. I will be letting you all know how this works out later...

I've gotta get back to work now, but I'll continue naming my observations as I see them. While I feel some of the things I've said have been said before, I hope that my way of saying them will allow others to understand better what is involved with RPG publishing for the small publisher...

Later,
John Bowden
The Fool
Mr. Oberon
 
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note1: post link to rpgnow purchase page in your sig.
note2: post page count on product page at both your own website as on rpgnow.
note3: post... nevermind... ;-)

I just bought it (and not because it was $5, more because it was your product), i hope more will follow, keep us updated on the sales.

Any plans for a further product?
 

Try these stats:

Ancient-Awakenings Valley of Frozen Tears page: 287 hits.

www.RPGNOW.com page: 920 hits.

Sales: 15

All since: 04-20-2004

Any other information you would like. I'm running this as an open experiment.

Good idea about a direct link. I thought the ad page from my site would be good enough, but somebody might balk at going to another site and an extra click...
 

Cergorach said:
Any plans for a further product?

Yes.

Right now, I'm working on a series of modules for the Valley.

The first will be a prelude module that allows 0 level characters to start in the Valley as early teens. It helps to build a connection to the setting for new characters.

The next three modules will be based on a major event that happens in the Valley. The story line is that a mythical being called the Winter's Knight is reawakened in the valley, with the characters being at ground zero for the event, and then having to solve the problems this causes thoughout the region.


I also hope to develop other new drop-in regions for publication, but that depends on how well Valley of Frozen Tears sells.

The next we would like to do is based on a living dragon-god. He sees his entire domain as his hoard, and therefore owns everything and everyone in it. As old as the land itself, he treats his subjects well. Due to his influence, slavery has been raised from the horror it was, to a matter of personal honor. A master's reputation is directly linked to the wellfare of his slaves, and few will do business with a cruel master... More on it when it goes from outline to design...

I hope to support D20 Future when it comes out as well.

Other than that, the future is wide open...
 

mroberon1972 said:
Sales: 15

All since: 04-20-2004

This is another excellent reason for new PDF publishers to release short PDFs (5-20 pages). You keep your initial expenses down and offer a low-priced product so that people can try you out cheap.

Many, many people are willing to spend $1 on a new publisher and add the product to a larger order. Fewer people are willing to drop $5 or more on a new publisher.
 

philreed said:
This is another excellent reason for new PDF publishers to release short PDFs (5-20 pages). You keep your initial expenses down and offer a low-priced product so that people can try you out cheap.

Many, many people are willing to spend $1 on a new publisher and add the product to a larger order. Fewer people are willing to drop $5 or more on a new publisher.

I wonder...

That model works well for now, but what happens when the market becomes flooded with so many $1 PDFs that it's impossible to find what your looking for, or to know what is good and what is bad?

All models have good and bad points. I just am not convinced that the short/cheap PDf is the best long-term way...

Then again, you could be right...
 

mroberon1972 said:
I wonder...

That model works well for now, but what happens when the market becomes flooded with so many $1 PDFs that it's impossible to find what your looking for, or to know what is good and what is bad?

All models have good and bad points. I just am not convinced that the short/cheap PDf is the best long-term way...

Then again, you could be right...

Or I could be wrong. I do feel the future of game PDF publishing will rely heavily on short PDFs. I also expect to see a sharp division between "pro" and "fan" publications and sales within the next 12 months. What I'm expecting to see is most PDF customers relying less on random surfing and shopping and more on purchasing only from a select few larger, established publishers.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Especially with companies like White Wolf and Steve Jackson Games getting into the PDF distribution arena. Those companies, and anyone else attempting to create their own PDF distribution site, will face a monumental challenge of unseating www.rpgnow.com so it's sure to be a wild ride for PDF consumers and publishers.

A subscription model is also something I expect to see gain popularity.
 



Thanks for revisiting this sort of discussion. I find it very interesting.

From a customer's POV (I am probably an exception), I usually do not balk at the cost of a PDF and have paid $15 for a product from anew and untried e-publisher.

I also tend to purchase PDFs in clumps--as in, I'm more likely to purchase multiple products that tie in together.

Of course, my spending habits are probably going to change as I send my daughter off to college.
 

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