Angel Finale

[Mouseferatu]

I really hope that Joss doesn't do anything more with the Buffyverse. Go out on a high note, use those creative muscles and try to do something truly different, like Firefly was, and move on.

I don't see that it has to be either/or, though. There's plenty of room for more interesting stuff in the Buffyverse, without rehashing. If there is a spin-off, I'd like to see it move around a bit, rather than being set largely in one city, just for example. But Joss has shown he can do more than one thing at a time, and he can certainly do more than one thing in succession. I'd love to see new stuff from him, and more Buffyverse material.

 

[John Crichton]

...hmm, and the Dark Shadows retread didn't get picked up either. I'd say there's a huge niche to fill...

Yeah. I thought the sci-fi/fantasy/geek genre shows were scarce this year - next year they are going to be even less. All that is really left for next year are Alias, Smallville and Enterprise. Slim pickins. Am I missing any?

 

[Mouseferatu]

Yeah. I thought the sci-fi/fantasy/geek genre shows were scarce this year - next year they are going to be even less. All that is really left for next year are Alias, Smallville and Enterprise. Slim pickins. Am I missing any?

Doesn't Sci-Fi start its new Battelstar Galactica series next year?

Can't vouche for how good it'll be, but it's a genre show...

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

"Lost", from the guy behind "Alias", sounds like it might be a genre show incognito.

 

[John Crichton]

Doesn't Sci-Fi start its new Battelstar Galactica series next year?

Ah, yes. I am looking forward to that. I thought it was a mini-series, tho. There is Farscape, too but that is certainly a mini...

"Lost", from the guy behind "Alias", sounds like it might be a genre show incognito.

Ah! There's one! That one catches my interest.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Also Stargate SG:1 (albeit with limited RDA) and Stargate Atlantis, both of which start in July, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[John Crichton]

Alright, I'm probably gonna take another unpopular side.

I really hope that Joss doesn't do anything more with the Buffyverse. Go out on a high note, use those creative muscles and try to do something truly different, like Firefly was, and move on.

While I would like to see him work on other projects, I think Joss should continue to do things in the Buffyverse. The characters still are interesting and there are still stories to tell. I know Joss can pull it off. I never thought that the Angel spinoff would be any good and boy was I wrong. Firefly kicked our collective butts. In Joss I trust. Buffyverse or no Buffyverse he can do whatever he wants and I'll watch it at this point...

To boot, look at JMS's most successful ventures after Babylon 5 - none of them are B5 related. Hell, the only good B5 movie was In The Beginning, and that was mostly a recap of the series. Crusade started to grow on me, but it was nothing compared to the original. On the other hand Jeremiah was great, if relatively unseen due to it being on Showtime. Not to mention his work in comics.

Oh, and a big old middle finger to Showtime, who really deserves it for not showing the last half of the second season of Jeremiah. I can forgive the WB for a cheesy thank you thingee even though they repeatedly pick up Charmed.

I like JMS and his work is very good (comics and TV). But he is no Joss, not when it comes to TV anyway.

 

[Grog]

Yeah. I thought the sci-fi/fantasy/geek genre shows were scarce this year - next year they are going to be even less. All that is really left for next year are Alias, Smallville and Enterprise. Slim pickins. Am I missing any?

I heard a rumor that some of the Angel writers are going over to Alias next year. Anyone know if it's true?

 

[John Crichton]

I heard a rumor that some of the Angel writers are going over to Alias next year. Anyone know if it's true?

Yup, this is fact. Bell, one of the writers of the finale is crossing over as is one other writer who's name eludes me at the moment.

EDIT: The other writer is Drew Goddard.

And on the Alias front - ABC doesn't plan on showing any new eps until 2005 according to AICN. Yu-uck.

 

[Mouseferatu]

I like JMS and his work is very good (comics and TV). But he is no Joss, not when it comes to TV anyway.

You know, there was a time when them woulda been fightin' wurds. I'm a little calmer now.

I'll agree, that Joss has got it all over JMS when it comes to dialogue. They're roughly on par when it comes to long-term character development. (I'll put the G'kar character development arc up against Wesley's, and then stand back as the universe explodes, unable to declare which is better.) But I don't think anyone has managed to duplicate the sheer scope of what Babylon 5 was. Even the arc-heavy seasons of Buffy or Angel were not a single epic story like B5 was.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way putting down Joss. Honestly, he probably is a better writer overall than JMS. But I don't think the call is that easy to make, and there are still things JMS has done that Joss has yet to equal.

Though I'd love to see him try. That'd be some quality television.