youspoonybard
First Post
I was thinking of writing up "What Happens When You Wildshape" since I just hit 5th level anyway...
Animal Companions and spells
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jgsugden
Legend
Nail said:
BVB said:
Yeah. Quoting reliable resources sucks. It makes no sense to listen to information from the guy who wrote the stuff. What was I thinking? I mean, why would we look to the guy that is best situated to provide a meaningful answer?
Oh, wait, let me turn off my sarcasm filter.
Ignoring information is a much better example of 'poor thinking', IMHO. Quoting Andy is like refering to the Federalist Papers as support for a constituional argument (NOTE: If you don't know what the Federalist Papers are (and you live in the US), you need to put down your D&D books and pick up your history books. Seriously.) We're trying to determine what the text of polymorph/alter self is supposed to mean. Why wouldn't we want to know the author's opinion about what he wrote?
Geeesh. Why do I let myself be baited back into these threads?
Camarath
Pale Master Tarrasque
Just in case anyone gets the impression that the Federalist Papers are in some way a definitive source on issues of constitutionality let me state that they are not. They do offer an important perspective on many constitutional issues but are not authoritative in the same manner as Supreme Court Decisions or the Constitution its self. They are a good analogy though if the Constitution is the Core Rule Books then Errata and Supplements are Amendments, Official FAQs are Supreme Court Decisions, and Writer's opinions would be resources like the Federalist Papers.jgsugden said:
Hmm let us investigate
Plant Types : Every plant in the MM I can find has plant traits under SQ
Elementals : As above
Angel : All the angel traits listed under SQ individually
Archon: Archon traist listed in SQ
..
Im spotting a pattern here
Pattern seems to be that SQ are RELISTED for ease of reference or to remind people who might not have played much the elementals get a bunch of bonuses for being elementals
The idea of removeing traits for being in SQ seem to negate just about every single trait I can find in the MM.
Any thoughts in light of that ?
Plant Types : Every plant in the MM I can find has plant traits under SQ
Elementals : As above
Angel : All the angel traits listed under SQ individually
Archon: Archon traist listed in SQ
..
Im spotting a pattern here
Pattern seems to be that SQ are RELISTED for ease of reference or to remind people who might not have played much the elementals get a bunch of bonuses for being elementals
The idea of removeing traits for being in SQ seem to negate just about every single trait I can find in the MM.
Any thoughts in light of that ?
youspoonybard
First Post
It appears that when you get your type change previously, you DO gain those special trait qualities. So you get all of the trait qualities listed in the back of the Monster Manual.
Then, you DON'T get the special qualities listed under the individual monster entry. So you don't get the "Plant traits" if you Wild Shape into a plant...but you already have those, because you changed type.
The net result is you get the qualities that ALL plants have, but none of them that this specific plant has.
Then, you DON'T get the special qualities listed under the individual monster entry. So you don't get the "Plant traits" if you Wild Shape into a plant...but you already have those, because you changed type.
The net result is you get the qualities that ALL plants have, but none of them that this specific plant has.
(heh)
jgsugden
Legend
Camarath said:
You've said what they are not. Now, I dare thee to say what they are!
(10 pts) Explain how a judge deciding an issue of Constitutional Law might use the Federalist Papers in his opinion. Be clear and explain fully.
(5 pts) Explain how that usage would parallel the use of a a D&D author's comments on his work.
(1 pt) Prove that the chair you are sitting on exists. Use pandas and +3 chop sticks in your answer if possible.
