• NOW LIVE! Into the Woods--new character species, eerie monsters, and haunting villains to populate the woodlands of your D&D games.

Annoying Fantasy Trends

Sado

First Post
What annoys you when you read a fantasy novel. I have two big pet peeves.

The first is when the main character is the "chosen one" spoken of in some old prophecy who is the only one who can rid the world of the BBEG and/or recover the magic dingus.

The second is when characters in a fantasy setting have names like William or Peter, ie normal Earth names.

I have absolutely no reason for asking, just bored and trying to make conversation
 

log in or register to remove this ad

Ooh yeah, I hate it when my fantasies are filled with Willies and Peters. I am just sick of people trying to cram their Willies and Peters down my throat. Bunch of dicks, I say.
 

I agree with the first. There was a time where it was a new idea, but it's so overused. It can still be done well--rarely--so the presence of a "chosen one" isn't enough to turn me off a book by itself. It counts points off, though.

However, I disagree with the second. While I don't want modern names, I think good, old-fashioned medieval or Biblical names are just fine. I wouldn't want to read a fantasy story with someone named Wally, but I have no problem with something like Gabriel or Jonah. (Or, for that matter, William.) To me, the name has to fit the setting, but many real world names fit the traditional fantasy setting just fine.

As to my own pet peeves?

I hate it when a character from the real world who is pulled into a fantasy realm refuses to believe in the reality of it. I mean, sure, a brief period of disbelief is fine. But don't spend chapters or even whole books denying it; even if it's realistic, it's friggin' annoying to read. (Thomas Covenant, I'm looking in your direction...)

I hate it when writers try to make a book feel more fantasy-like by having dialogue written in Ye Old Flowery Englishe. It's fine to have a specific character talk with thees and thous if the author's making that a character trait (like Mandorallen in The Belgariad), but don't make it a standard feature.

I really hate it when authors slap fantasy settings and names on novels that are all about heaving bosoms and pulsing loins, and try to claim it's a fantasy novel rather than a romance novel. While not all their novels are like this, Anne McAffrey and Mercedes Lackey are both guilty of this charge on multiple counts.

Let's see, what else?

If you're going to get your science fiction in my fantasy, tell me on the cover!! I'm not normally a huge fan of sci-fi/fantasy crossover. It can, however, be done well, so I'm not inherently opposed to the idea, if I know about it. Do not try to sneak it in, however, or make it a surprise twist. Ever. Seriously.

The standard fantasy races? Elves, dwarves, halfings/hobbits? If your story doesn't need them, don't include them. Sure, they have a place in fantasy, and some stories are better with them. For the most part, though, if you just need different cultures, use various cultures of humans. When you use other races, there should be a good reason for it. And "It's fantasy, so it should have elves" is not a good reason.

(And now a few peeves that aren't limited to just fantasy...)

If a book is the first of a series, it damn well better say so on the cover!! Nothing makes my arson finger twitch like getting to the end of a book and only then discovering it's book 1 of 27.

Speaking of, tell your stories in a reasonable number of books. The story hasn't yet been written that really needed more than a dozen books to tell, and most don't require half that. And damn it, publish some stories that only require one book! Not everything has to be a series!!

If you're going to publish a book, make sure something bloody well happens. If the plot is in the exact same spot at the end of book 10 that it was at the end of book 9, you're doing something wrong.

Okay, I think I'm done.

For now.
 
Last edited:

hong said:
Ooh yeah, I hate it when my fantasies are filled with Willies and Peters. I am just sick of people trying to cram their Willies and Peters down my throat. Bunch of dicks, I say.

Oh yeah, forgot about all those Richards too :lol:

I remember another annoyance in a Harry Turtledove novel I recently read. It's set on some other world, so I imagine they would have their own languages different from ours, but a famous singer on this other world wrote songs that just happened to rhyme in English. That's not as major a complaint though.
 
Last edited:

I really dislike the "It was impossible but he did it!" style. Usually with more info on it, but it just ruins the idea that the hero might just have limitations.

And magic/special race/society idea/cool for the sake of cool. Cool is cool, all that cool crammed into small pieces and then cramed down you throat multiple times. [cough]R.A Salvador[/cough]
 

It is, in fact, okay for both of the hero's parents to be alive, fairly healthy, fairly happy, and neiter impovrished nor royalty. If you're creating twentysomething heroes, this should be the default state, not an exceptionally rare occurence.

If you're going to have a big, ugly, stupid, aggressive evil race in your world, just call them orcs and have done. There's no need to be especially creative in devising a name for them. By the same token, if you're going to have roughtly human-sized, aloof or mysteriously benevolent nature freaks, just call them elves.

It's okay for a significant female character actually be plain-looking, rather than a tomboy or urchin who looks suprisingly attractive after taking a bath and putting on a dress.
 

Annoying fantasy trends...

"Chosen One" heroes who are destined to fulfill a prophecy.

Entire chapters that are nothing but the hero/heroine angsting over something.

Elves that are perfectly wise, enlightened, and the best at everything they do.

Elves that are arrogant and racist, but for some reason the other races still love them and look upon the elves with awe and wonder.

Dwarves that are are always stupid, dirty, and foul-tempered.

Halflings/gnomes (or any other small race) that exist for no other reason than to act cowardly and provide comic relief.
 

Stampy-footed and vicious but cute and sexy yet ('lovably') annoying fiery-haired princesses.

hmm...

Weapons with overly cheesy (wince-worthy) names, too.

Ah, anything with an overly cheesy name.

So really my bane in a fantasy novel would be a vicious, cute, sexy, 'lovably' annoying, stampy-footed, fiery-haired princess called Willowblossom or Elfstar or whatever, wielding a hugely powerful awesome magical kewl legendary Piece O Death that goes by the name of Whisperdeath or some such.

Yeh. That'd do it.

Oh, too the cutesy wittle critters that waddle/paddle/flap/sproing/bound/etc. around for no other reason than to score 'cute points' with potential marks, ah readers that is.
 

Ya, some of these are annoying but only when done badly. A good writer can take a cliched event and make it enjoyible reading.
 

Crothian said:
Ya, some of these are annoying but only when done badly. A good writer can take a cliched event and make it enjoyible reading.

Heh. :) It's all that fiction writing really is. Not so much the what, but the how. Not so much the tell, but the show. Not so much the sound, but the fury.

Or, at least that's how I see it. Most stuff has already been done before. It's the manner that you do it again that's important to me. It's why I still have fun killing orcs I suppose...

joe b.
 

Into the Woods

Remove ads

Top