Another Cease and Desist Letter: 4E Powercards

[GMforPowergamers]

However, also not as cordial as "We've noticed you have copyrighted material on your website. Can you please remove it?". Without the added "or we'll sue you!".

did you see a copy of a letter that said eaither????


maybe it said one. or the other...or maybe somewhere inbetween


I knw a company I use to work for use to have a form letter for C&D that included:
please remove X, we would like to resolve this just between us, and in a mutal way

with no menton of sueing...bbut the next step was to sue anyway...

 

[malraux]

However, also not as cordial as "We've noticed you have copyrighted material on your website. Can you please remove it?". Without the added "or we'll sue you!".

But without mentioning the possible actions wotc might take if the site were still up, isn't the letter pretty pointless? Was the site owner unclear on the whole copyright thing?

 

[El Mahdi]

ok I am going to try this anology thing again (I have 2 strikes so far)...

Nah, no strikes (just a couple of foul balls - just teasing).

I understand your analogy. I just don't think that most people outside of the legal or business world, see formal legal letters implying future legal action as "friendly". (I know I wouldn't.) However, those in business and the legal profession may see things differently.

 

[El Mahdi]

Wouldn't the friendly letter also threaten legal action? I would assume it lists why they want the site taken down and if not what they will do next.

Yes, but in a silent implication. I know that sounds silly, but to people outside of the business and legal world, it makes a big difference (at least it would to me).

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Nah, no strikes (just a couple of foul balls - just teasing).

the funny part is I am a salesman that prides myself on getting my point across...and it works well in person...only ok in letters and alm ost not at all on boards...I don't know what type of mental block it is..

I just don't think that most people outside of the legal or business world, see formal legal letters implying future legal action as "friendly". (I know I wouldn't.) However, those in business and the legal profession may see things differently.

I guess becuse I have been in the postion to work hand in hand with legal for a couple of companies in the past my view is ...lets say odd

 

[El Mahdi]

I also feel that a company that forgets it's bottom line and focuses on pleasing over damanding cutomers will soon find they are not makeing enough money...

Too true. I guess people are watching to see how balanced WoTC is going to be in this regard.

 

[xechnao]

I have found that the law is usually less about what is legal, and more about those with power doing what they like through the law against those without power.

oh yes

 

[xechnao]

Every time I see a thread like this, I invoke a silent "thank you" to Ryan Dancey.

If it wasn't for Ryan Dancey and the OGL and its effect on the market I highly doubt you would be seeing a thread like this in the first place.

This post explains the reason:

http://www.enworld.org/forum/4675080-post83.html

 

[jensun]

The only thing we have regarding sales are some relative numbers for the original core trio of books regarding initial print runs. There has been a deafening silence on sales of books released after that point.

You say this as if there is some sort of conspiracy of silence at WotC to conceal the position and yet I dont recall seeing them publish sale figures at any point in their history.

In fact, I dont recall seeing TSR publish such information nor any other company in the industry.

Its hard to call that a deafening silence, more like business as usual.

 

[xechnao]

I can appreciate some of the arguments people have raised for why the OGL fell out of favor at WotC. I fail to see how the OGL was a bad thing for customers or how the restricting GSL is a blessing for RPG customers.

I am a customer and I feel that the OGL was a bad thing for me as a customer due to the value I lost on non D20 systems.
But even if I disagree with you on this I want to praise you on your excellent analysis about market behaviors in your post
http://www.enworld.org/forum/4675181-post96.html