Jack99
Adventurer
Then I am damn happy to be a child of 34. 'Cause for me, 4e has been the best edition ever.
Another Cease and Desist Letter: 4E Powercards
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Then I am damn happy to be a child of 34. 'Cause for me, 4e has been the best edition ever.
For me, no. Very dissapoint.
the Jester
Legend
Red text = moderator voice, any further discussion should go to email. 
Publically disputing moderator decisions is one of the very few things that the powers that be on ENWorld have zero tolerance for.
Publically disputing moderator decisions is one of the very few things that the powers that be on ENWorld have zero tolerance for.
Piratecat
Sesquipedalian
1. don't publicly discuss moderation here. Feel free to email me if you have questions.
2. You've personally insulted other members, as well as making blanket statement comparing people who like 4e to children.
Stop now, please. And feel free to email me (by clicking on my user name) if this is somehow not clear.
Red text = moderator voice, any further discussion should go to email.
moderator can be wrong too.
Piratecat
Sesquipedalian
That may not have been the best way to proceed.
Please review the rules before posting further on EN World. Thanks.
EDIT: And hey, everybody! Please greet the member "ProfessorPain," who apparently thinks he can hide behind a second account so that he can troll. Yeah... not so much.
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I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
The thing with piracy (which isn't theft, btw) is that the numbers don't even tell half the story. They don't even BEGIN to tell the story. The story isn't ultimately about the numbers. It's something much bigger than that.
But piracy also isn't here or there -- this site wasn't engaged in piracy, really. Heck, it wasn't doing anything Shepard Fairey isn't getting sued over.
WotC was (perhaps debatably) within their rights to ask someone who was taking the rules they wrote and publishing them to stop doing that. The reason it sucks biggest in my own opinion is because it shows a remarkable lack of foresight from WotC. They're going with the old model of tight control and protection, rather than a new model of encouraging end-user innovation, such as by offering this website a special license to continue to do what they do under WotC's watchful eye, rather than off by themselves. I can't really blame them for going with the wisdom of the ages rather than adapting here, but it's a little disappointing -- kind of like a "war on drugs," a fight against this kind of remixing is ultimately sound and fury signifying nothing (I can get marajuana if I want, and I can still get 4e rules for free if I want, and no policy or rule or barrier is ever going to be able to completely stop it, as far as anyone can see).
I expected it, I don't blame them, and they're totally fair in this. I kind of wish they would choose something a little bolder and more pro-active, but I'm not going to burn them for not fulfilling my little fantasies, here.
GMforPowergamers
Legend
I kind of wish they would choose something a little bolder and more pro-active, but I'm not going to burn them for not fulfilling my little fantasies, here.
I agree...it would be awsome if WotC was more bold and inavative...I just don't want them to shot themselves in the foot...like I said pages ago I want to see WotC still be makeing mony off D&D 20 years from now...
Shemeska
Adventurer
The only thing we have regarding sales are some relative numbers for the original core trio of books regarding initial print runs. There has been a deafening silence on sales of books released after that point.
We're all going to read into that void as we see fit, and without numbers that neither of us have access to, neither my skepticism nor others fanboyism is going to bend much. I swear, some folks seem to take personal offense at the very suggestion that the 4e might not be the most financially successful edition of all time by any metric possible.
A couple of points. As an staunch grognard, I need WOTC products like Haifa needs bacon cheeseburgers. And the one great boon of the 3E era was the OGL... the OGL was a brilliant stroke which is of benefit to gamers everywhere and helps ensure the life of this hobby in the future, come what may. Sadly WOTC has turned their back on the OGL and decided to go in a different, less fortunate direction.
Now. All of that has no particular bearing on this question. Because whatever anyone thinks of WOTC's products or the direction they've decided to go, WOTC owns those products and gets to choose their direction. So WOTC has decided that the complete power card text for all the powers isn't free... whether that's a good or bad decision doesn't even factor into this. It's their product and it's their decision. So if someone decides to give away that text, WOTC has every right to ask them to stop doing it.
Now. All of that has no particular bearing on this question. Because whatever anyone thinks of WOTC's products or the direction they've decided to go, WOTC owns those products and gets to choose their direction. So WOTC has decided that the complete power card text for all the powers isn't free... whether that's a good or bad decision doesn't even factor into this. It's their product and it's their decision. So if someone decides to give away that text, WOTC has every right to ask them to stop doing it.
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