Another Cease and Desist Letter: 4E Powercards

[Xyxox]

And yet somehow, they are finding a way to do it now...

Six months after the fact. Again, the illegal activity is so widespread that it is impossible to keep up with it.

Who said anything about "evil"... it wasn't, it was smart business.

It's about the most lidiotic business activity possible! IF WotC were STUPID ENOUGH to purposefully allow a site to violate their copyright in some lamebreained scheme for market testing, they would put that copyright at risk. Sijmply put, willingly allowing somebody to violate your copyright is tanamount to approval.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

scott told us that it came to there attention on Jan 5th of this year...now no matter what problems you have with the company don't insult a valued member of this community by saying he is lieing...

and before people say "he has to say that" he could have said nothing on the subject...he choose to say that...there for it is in my opionon the truth...

 

[xechnao]

It's far easier to stoke the fires of suspicion with conspiracy theories about evil intent.

"evil"? Well, what corporations do is to try to make money within the system. This is their true god and you cant deny this due to the established fact of the game of competition. If some other corporation manages to make more money it becomes the one that controls the market. So I guess you could call the system "evil", yes. Is it not?
And should we suck it up and ridicule any suspicion as some "stupid" conspiracy theory?

 

[xechnao]

It's about the most lidiotic business activity possible! IF WotC were STUPID ENOUGH to purposefully allow a site to violate their copyright in some lamebreained scheme for market testing, they would put that copyright at risk. Sijmply put, willingly allowing somebody to violate your copyright is tanamount to approval.

And "will" is something we can check with ESP right? I forgot that spell, how idiot and stupid I am! Not to say that you cant risk your copyright -just your trademarks, at least this is what people are saying about the actual laws.

 

[Xyxox]

And "will" is something we can check with ESP right? I forgot that spell, how idiot and stupid I am! Not to say that you cant risk your copyright -just your trademarks, at least this is what people are saying about the actual laws.

Yes, you can risk your copyrights.

And "will" is something that can be checked via an instrument called "discovery". Corporations document activities and documents must be produced in the discovery phase of litigation.

You don't know much about IP litigation, do you?

 

[xechnao]

In this case, perhaps a game aid is a new work?

I guess a new work must be something of the nature of the copyrighted matter in question. Something of intellectual value. Not a new kind of media distribution of the same intellectual property.
But are you sure about what you are saying regarding quoted text? If this be true then what was the value of OGL first place?

 

[Imaro]

Six months after the fact. Again, the illegal activity is so widespread that it is impossible to keep up with it.

Ok, yet they are at this particular time making it a priority and thus are... at least to a point... "keeping up with it. So somehting *cough* character builder *cough* $9.99 power card sets *cough*... has made this a priority now.

It's about the most lidiotic business activity possible! IF WotC were STUPID ENOUGH to purposefully allow a site to violate their copyright in some lamebreained scheme for market testing, they would put that copyright at risk. Sijmply put, willingly allowing somebody to violate your copyright is tanamount to approval.

I'm sorry, but you're telling me you can loose copyright protection (not trademark) by not pursuing all instances where your copyright is used without your permission?? I've been on the U.S. copyright office site and it states copyright lasts until the death of the author plus 70 years afterwards. Now unlike you, I didn't claim to work for a company whose sole purpose is to create and manage IP... but I don't think you can loose copyright protection in the way you are suggesting... do you have any proof of this?

scott told us that it came to there attention on Jan 5th of this year...now no matter what problems you have with the company don't insult a valued member of this community by saying he is lieing...

and before people say "he has to say that" he could have said nothing on the subject...he choose to say that...there for it is in my opionon the truth...

Read what I have posted again, if you are referring to me, before making accusations. Scott was very careful to state he became aware of this particular website on Jan 5th. However this website uses powercards that have been on the internet since way before Jan 5th. This is what I have been speaking of, how long has WotC been aware of powercards ( or even just the powercards this site made use of) that replicate the text from the PHB... I bet it was earlier than Jan 5th.

 

[xechnao]

Yes, you can risk your copyrights.

And "will" is something that can be checked via an instrument called "discovery". Corporations document activities and documents must be produced in the discovery phase of litigation.

You don't know much about IP litigation, do you?

You are asking to win the world war with a pea shooter.

 

[Merkuri]

So somehting *cough* character builder *cough* $9.99 power card sets *cough*... has made this a priority now.

Is there a problem with that?

Businesses have a lot going on. I doubt they have somebody employed who's sole job is to search the web for copyright infringement. They probably knew that sites existed that had power cards on them, but were too busy to try and hunt down them all.

Now that they're going to be releasing their own power cards they probably decided to put somebody on it (Rouse?) at least part time. They found a few sites and set out a couple C&Ds. This is a perfectly valid way for them to work.

 

[tomBitonti]

Quotes from published works, when used in another published work, are not copyright violations.

I believe compliance with the law hinges on the creation of a new work, however that is defined legally.

In this case, perhaps a game aid is a new work?

From the Harry Potter case, that would seem to be the case, however, the use of substantial text verbatim is still not allowed. An index to all of the Potter books, including terms that are protected text, was indicated to be allowed; however, an index having entries that reproduced copyright text was not.