Another Immortals Handbook thread

[Pssthpok]

Not sure what you are doing wrong.

In the official release its...

+30 Str/x8 Density, +60/x64, +90/x512, +120/x4096 etc.

I'm multiplying the material's weight factor by 2.5 (since every x8 equals +20; 20/8 = 2.5), It's given accurate results up until now.

Wouldn't changing the +20/x8 to +30 radically alter the extant golems' Strength scores?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hiya Pssthpok mate!

I'm multiplying the material's weight factor by 2.5 (since every x8 equals +20; 20/8 = 2.5), It's given accurate results up until now.

Accurate compared to what?

Wouldn't changing the +20/x8 to +30 radically alter the extant golems' Strength scores?

Yes. All the golem strengths have changed as have all the golem Hit Dice figures.

 

[Pssthpok]

Hiya Pssthpok mate!



Accurate compared to what?

Hiya, UK. The results have been accurate compared to published golems...

Yes. All the golem strengths have changed as have all the golem Hit Dice figures.

...which are moot, in light of this. So, I want to stay on the same page... just to check, an iron golem should have a Strength of 47? Would it also have a base (at Large/'Golem' size) of 23 HD?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hiya, UK.

Hiya mate!

So, I want to stay on the same page... just to check, an iron golem should have a Strength of 47? Would it also have a base (at Large/'Golem' size) of 23 HD?

I actually worked it out to Str +26 = 46 (26 + 10 + 10) and 22 HD.

I am guessing there are probably a few variant figures for iron density (?), however even with Str 47 it would still be 22 HD, not 23.

ie. 27 divided by 2 = 13.5 + 9 = 22.5 (round down naturally).

By the way, I just updated some more illustrations to the website.

http://www.immortalshandbook.com/IHpreview4.htm

 

[Shemeska]

By the way, I just updated some more illustrations to the website.

http://www.immortalshandbook.com/IHpreview4.htm

For what it's worth, can I assume the 'Gibboram' on the new art for the book is derived from Chaugnar Faugn of Frank Belknap Long fame? It's a dead ringer for that particular Great Old One, with the exception of not having arms.

 

[Pssthpok]

Hiya mate!

I actually worked it out to Str +26 = 46 (26 + 10 + 10) and 22 HD.

I am guessing there are probably a few variant figures for iron density (?), however even with Str 47 it would still be 22 HD, not 23.

Hi, UK.

I was using a density of 8.0, I think you're using 7.7. Yours is more accurate.

ie. 27 divided by 2 = 13.5 + 9 = 22.5 (round down naturally).

Ahh, I was adding 10. Okay, I getchya. That means my custom-built silver golems are off... again.

By the way, I just updated some more illustrations to the website

Oh, excellent, going to check post-haste.

 

[Zoatebix]

Hiya mate!



Indeed. My mistake. On MOHs scale...

Gold and Silver both 2.5
Platinum 3.5
Iron 4

For the purposes of D&D I would imagine that each point on the Mohs scale equals 3.33 hardness (with 1 on the Mohs scale treated as 0 Hardness)

So...

Diamond = Hardness 30*
Glass = Hardness 15*
Iron = Hardness 10
Platinum = Hardness 8
Copper = Hardness 6
Gold/Silver = Hardness 5
Fingernails = Hardness 3

*But fragile and subject to critical hits.

That's the kind of stuff I love to see! No one else ever posts this kind of stuff. Too bad Moh's scale isn't so much a scale as an ordering...

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Shemmy mate!

For what it's worth, can I assume the 'Gibboram' on the new art for the book is derived from Chaugnar Faugn of Frank Belknap Long fame? It's a dead ringer for that particular Great Old One, with the exception of not having arms.

To be honest its derived more from the classic occult image of Behemoth (which may or may not have inspired Chaugnar Faugn in the first place?).

http://www.occultopedia.com/b/behemoth.htm

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Zoatebix matey!

That's the kind of stuff I love to see! No one else ever posts this kind of stuff.

Glad to be of service.

Too bad Moh's scale isn't so much a scale as an ordering...

True, but D&D is pretty much representative of that.

For instance, with regards true hardness Diamond is 75 times harder than iron, but I don't think it should have hardness 750.

 

[Pssthpok]

Hey, UK.

Does the change regarding density affect the acquisition of virtual size categories? I'm guessing it would switch to +1 VSC/+30 Str. If not, doesn't iron gain a virtual size category?