Another Immortals Handbook thread

[Upper_Krust]

Hey, UK.

Hiya dude!

Does the change regarding density affect the acquisition of virtual size categories? I'm guessing it would switch to +1 VSC/+30 Str.

+1 VSC/+15 strength...I don't need to explain exactly how bad@ss that makes the revised Neutronium Golem.

If not, doesn't iron gain a virtual size category?

Yes it would.

 

[Pssthpok]

Hello again, UK.

That.. certainly makes things... very.. very powerful. My silver golems are off, yet again. I'll need to give them the extra VSC. I'd wager it makes the neutronium golem somewhere around +33 VSC.

On the issue of VSC, why doesn't it grant the size modifier to grapple check?

Finally, if iron gains a VSC, does the base damage on my iron longsword change?

 

[Alzrius]

U_K, minor issue about the IH's dragons. For the most part, they have names that haven't been given to D&D dragons before. However, the adamantite dragon was featured in MC 8, the Monstrous Compendium Outer Planes Appendix. Likewise, the mithril dragon was from the Spelljammer product Practical Planetology.

In regards to the mithril dragon, I'd recommend changing the name there to platinum dragon. That resolves the conflict, and makes sense to say that Bahamut is thus a great, great, great platinum wyrm (since he's called the Platinum Dragon). There's never been a non-unique platinum dragon before, and it'd be cool if there was one.

I'm not sure what the Mithril dragon's name could be changed to to make it unique.

 

[Alzrius]

Hm...is it just me, or is the IH website down?

EDIT: It seems Firefox can't locate the page..which is odd, since other browsers seem to have no trouble.

 

[Anabstercorian]

Just you. Upper Krust still hasn't finished any of his work, and he's still a failure, FINISH THE BOOK DAMMIT ARGH

Edit: DOUBLE ARRRRRRRGH

Edit the second: WHY CAN'T IT BE INTUITIVELY OBVIOUS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A FORCE GOLEM HITS ANOTHER FORCE GOLEM ARGH

Edit the third: THE FORCE GOLEM'S POWER WORD STUN IS VAGUELY DEFINED AND MAKES NO SENSE IN LIGHT OF HOW THE SPELL WORKS

Edit the fourth: Okay, enough ranting.

The diamond golem's Cascading Slam is pretty weird. No saving throw, and I don't know how you calculated the Dispel Check DC. That should be clarified, as I imagine the number is higher for bigger golems. Likewise for the hypnotic pattern.

The above complaint applies to mercury golems poison. Does the Mercury Golem's sharpness ability require a second roll to confirm the crit? If not, it should, and it should be avoidable like any other crit using Fortification and the like.

The diamond golem's duplicate ability should have a clarified cap, to either prevent it from single-handedly wiping out an army in a round, or to explicitly declare that it can.

Orichalcum Golems: Plasma Beam damage is constant for all levels of golem? Is it a line or a ranged touch attack? How does an Echoing Weapon interact with whirlwind attack?

Grigori: The 'insight' ability is vague. How much of an insight bonus? What if he doesn't WANT to go last? Once Karmic Scrutiny is active, how can you break the effect beyond killing the watcher?

Unelementals: If someone is sucked in to the void and lost forever, well, forgive me but how hard is it for them to become un-lost? Flight claims they can disintigrate solid matter in their path, but how quickly? They don't really do that much damage. Do their attacks ignore hardness? How long does fascinate last?

Send John Cooper a comp copy. Seriously.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again, UK.

Hiya matey!

That.. certainly makes things... very.. very powerful. My silver golems are off, yet again. I'll need to give them the extra VSC. I'd wager it makes the neutronium golem somewhere around +33 VSC.

+32.

On the issue of VSC, why doesn't it grant the size modifier to grapple check?

I see that more of a size related issue than a density related one. Density already gives you a bonus to strength which is added to the Grapple Modifier, and I don't like the idea of a double boost.

Finally, if iron gains a VSC, does the base damage on my iron longsword change?

Yes.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Alzrius mate!

U_K, minor issue about the IH's dragons. For the most part, they have names that haven't been given to D&D dragons before. However, the adamantite dragon was featured in MC 8, the Monstrous Compendium Outer Planes Appendix. Likewise, the mithril dragon was from the Spelljammer product Practical Planetology.

I own the former, but never saw the latter.

In regards to the mithril dragon, I'd recommend changing the name there to platinum dragon. That resolves the conflict, and makes sense to say that Bahamut is thus a great, great, great platinum wyrm (since he's called the Platinum Dragon). There's never been a non-unique platinum dragon before, and it'd be cool if there was one.

I'll consider it.

I'm not sure what the Mithril dragon's name could be changed to to make it unique.

Do you mean Adamantite?

Given that WotC would use Adamantine nowadays anyway I think I'll keep this as is. Its meant to be the epic version of the Ferrous Dragons.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hm...is it just me, or is the IH website down?

EDIT: It seems Firefox can't locate the page..which is odd, since other browsers seem to have no trouble.

That might be a problem my end, I'll check things when I update the website tonight.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Howdy!

Just you. Upper Krust still hasn't finished any of his work, and he's still a failure, FINISH THE BOOK DAMMIT ARGH

Edit: DOUBLE ARRRRRRRGH

Edit the second: WHY CAN'T IT BE INTUITIVELY OBVIOUS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A FORCE GOLEM HITS ANOTHER FORCE GOLEM ARGH

Edit the third: THE FORCE GOLEM'S POWER WORD STUN IS VAGUELY DEFINED AND MAKES NO SENSE IN LIGHT OF HOW THE SPELL WORKS

Edit the fourth: Okay, enough ranting.

The diamond golem's Cascading Slam is pretty weird. No saving throw, and I don't know how you calculated the Dispel Check DC. That should be clarified, as I imagine the number is higher for bigger golems. Likewise for the hypnotic pattern.

The above complaint applies to mercury golems poison. Does the Mercury Golem's sharpness ability require a second roll to confirm the crit? If not, it should, and it should be avoidable like any other crit using Fortification and the like.

The diamond golem's duplicate ability should have a clarified cap, to either prevent it from single-handedly wiping out an army in a round, or to explicitly declare that it can.

Orichalcum Golems: Plasma Beam damage is constant for all levels of golem? Is it a line or a ranged touch attack? How does an Echoing Weapon interact with whirlwind attack?

Grigori: The 'insight' ability is vague. How much of an insight bonus? What if he doesn't WANT to go last? Once Karmic Scrutiny is active, how can you break the effect beyond killing the watcher?

Unelementals: If someone is sucked in to the void and lost forever, well, forgive me but how hard is it for them to become un-lost? Flight claims they can disintigrate solid matter in their path, but how quickly? They don't really do that much damage. Do their attacks ignore hardness? How long does fascinate last?

Points noted. I'll get to work correcting them.

Send John Cooper a comp copy. Seriously.

Would he be up for such an endeavour, pre-release I mean?

There are lots of changes in the official version, and clearly still a few more to make obviously. I wouldn't want to send it to him prior to having it all finished.

 

[Pssthpok]

Ahoy, Krust.

+32.

I see that more of a size related issue than a density related one. Density already gives you a bonus to strength which is added to the Grapple Modifier, and I don't like the idea of a double boost.

Point conceded.

Yes.

That's an bold move, friend. A d8 longsword has been standard since dice have been thrown.