Another Immortals Handbook thread

[Upper_Krust]

Hey all!

I have just noticed that my website is down, I cannot access my control panel either. Also sonofapreacherman's website www.wakinglands.com is also down and it uses the same webspace provider, so I am guessing its a problem at their end. Hopefully it will all be sorted within a day or two. The company business hours are monday to friday so I won't be getting any answers until tommorrow at the earliest, unless the problem has sorted itself by then? So thats going to hamper any updates over the immediate future - just so you know.

By the way if anyone else has any notes, comments or errata about the Bestiary, keep it coming.

 

[Cheiromancer]

What's this about an iron longsword not doing d8? Isn't iron its default material?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Ahoy, Krust.

That's an bold move, friend. A d8 longsword has been standard since dice have been thrown. [/QUOTE]

Medium Creature slam = d4 (assuming that is their natural attack)
Large creature slam = d6
+1 VSC = d8

An iron golem using its fists will deal 1d8+18

Medium Longsword = d8
Large Longsword = 2d6
+1 VSC = 2d8

An Iron Golem wielding a longsword would deal 2d8+18 damage.

 

[Alzrius]

I'll consider it.

For what it's worth, I think it's a good move to make. I couldn't say why, but for some reason realizing that there's never been a non-unique platinum dragon is annoying me.

Do you mean Adamantite?

B'oh! Yeah.

Given that WotC would use Adamantine nowadays anyway I think I'll keep this as is. Its meant to be the epic version of the Ferrous Dragons.

You mean the ones from Dragon #170? The cobalt, nickel, tungsten, iron, and chromium dragons? That's interesting, since I'm not at all sure if adamantine is ferrous or not.

After checking out the periodic table, my suggestion would be to rename the adamantite dragon to titanium, since that's one of the strongest real metals, and likewise, there's never been a TSR/WotC titanium dragon.

Likewise, splitting verbal hairs is enough to say that your solar and lunar dragons are different from Spelljammer's sun and moon dragons (though you both have stellar dragons).

Sorry if I'm nitpicking, it just seems like a shame to cover the same ground twice, since that makes your work that much less unique.

 

[Pate Pot Pete]

I am just wondering if the Epic Bestiary is on RPGNow or any other non-paypal RPG product selling sights. I am sure this has been mentioned before however I am to lazy to read this entire thread.

 

[Pssthpok]

Medium Creature slam = d4 (assuming that is their natural attack)
Large creature slam = d6
+1 VSC = d8

An iron golem using its fists will deal 1d8+18

With you...

Medium Longsword = d8
Large Longsword = 2d6
+1 VSC = 2d8

An Iron Golem wielding a longsword would deal 2d8+18 damage.

Okay... so what about my medium-size humanoid with an iron longsword? 1d8? 2d6?

I think I'm just not wrapping my head around this properly. Does the inherant +VSC of a material increase a weapon's base damage, or only when used by a creature of matching relative size or greater? For instance, if I have an adamantine rapier (+2 VSC, if my math is right) does it deal 1d6, or 2d6, or does it only deal 2d6 when used by a Huge creature or a creature with enough +VSC to be considered Huge (like an iron golem)?

 

[Alzrius]

Would he be up for such an endeavour, pre-release I mean?

It seems iffy. His style of reviewing is to look for, and list, mechanical and grammatical errors that he finds, but I don't know if he'd actually be up for a pre-release editing.

There are lots of changes in the official version, and clearly still a few more to make obviously. I wouldn't want to send it to him prior to having it all finished.

Don't forget that he's (AFAIK) a staff reviewer here at EN World. Anything sent to him for review would likely end up in his "to do" pile for a while.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hiya mate!

You mean the ones from Dragon #170? The cobalt, nickel, tungsten, iron, and chromium dragons? That's interesting, since I'm not at all sure if adamantine is ferrous or not.

Me neither, but it appears in meteors (according to the DMG) so it would suggest its replacing meteoric iron from 1st Edition.

After checking out the periodic table, my suggestion would be to rename the adamantite dragon to titanium, since that's one of the strongest real metals, and likewise, there's never been a TSR/WotC titanium dragon.

Quite a nice alternative there.

Is Titanium a ferrous metal?

Likewise, splitting verbal hairs is enough to say that your solar and lunar dragons are different from Spelljammer's sun and moon dragons (though you both have stellar dragons).

I've never read any spelljammer product.

Sorry if I'm nitpicking, it just seems like a shame to cover the same ground twice, since that makes your work that much less unique.

I can see your reasoning.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Pate Pot Pete!

I am just wondering if the Epic Bestiary is on RPGNow or any other non-paypal RPG product selling sights.

Not just yet - the bestiary is almost finished. I'm only a handful of illustrations shy of having it completed, so hopefully that will be sorted within the next few days.

The latest details are on my website, unfortunately the server appears to be down at the moment.

I am sure this has been mentioned before however I am to lazy to read this entire thread.

No harm done.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Pssthpok mate!

With you...

Okay... so what about my medium-size humanoid with an iron longsword? 1d8? 2d6?

1d8.

I think I'm just not wrapping my head around this properly. Does the inherant +VSC of a material increase a weapon's base damage, or only when used by a creature of matching relative size or greater?

It would, except for the fact that iron is obviously the default material for weapons so there is already a +1 VSC built-in.

eg. A bone longsword would probably only deal 1d6 damage.

For instance, if I have an adamantine rapier (+2 VSC, if my math is right)

Where does it give the weight of adamantine objects?

does it deal 1d6, or 2d6, or does it only deal 2d6 when used by a Huge creature or a creature with enough +VSC to be considered Huge (like an iron golem)?

I would doubt that Adamantine is fully eight times heavier than iron. An iron rapier deals a base 1d6 damage, therefore so will an adamantine rapier.